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100% agree. Talked to several people I know about how this all went down. Every last one of them said it makes them physically ill. WE ALL SAW what happened and what supposedly passes for "no bias."
I mean, COME on... "Insurance policy?"
PAGE: "[Trump's] not ever going to become president, right? Right?!"
STRZOK: "No. No he won't. We'll stop it."
Do you know of any subsequent actions taken by them or are you going to indict because they had an opinion. I expected that if the report wasn’t favorable Trump supporters would continue with the deep state conspiracy.
heard that in the report the IG doesn't think the excuses given by the FBI are credible. hope this will come up during next weeks meeting before congress. should be a good discussion.
Comey came out with the infamous letter to Congress to save himself and the reputation of the FBI. Not to help Trump. The FBI was sitting on HRC emails on Anthony Weiner’s laptop for a month. It was about to leak. If he did nothing and it came out that FBI was ignoring potential evidence it would look horrible for Comey and FBI. That’s why he did it.
Exactly. It just happened that it helped Trump. I'm sure every upper level FBI employee was beyond furious about that, as it appears that they were 100% in the bag for Clinton.
Last night Laura Ingraham was quoting important information and citing the page number. Is MSM doing that?
The Executive Summary seems to be tailored for the media to focus on what's not in it, ignoring important points hidden within the report, making it look like nothing. It's semantics by saying there is no 'documented' evidence people were politically biased but in the report there is plenty of illustrated evidence.
If Wray has to conduct seminars with employees to tell them how to be objective, it means there is bias!
Very different treatment of the two candidates & YES, the fact that Wray of the FBI said he would adopt all of the OIG recommendations indicated that they have a serious Culture Problem at the FBI. Wray also said in his presser that he has already referred 5 agents to their version of Internal Affairs - the same division that recommended the McCabe firing and criminal indictments.
For all his assiduous attention to detail, IG Horowitz has weaved a no-common-sense report.
On August 8, 2016, FBI lawyer Lisa Page, borderline hysterical, texts her lover, agent Peter Strzok, about GOP candidate Donald Trump: “He’s not ever going to become president, right? Right?!”
Strzok replies, “No. No he won’t. We’ll stop it.”
Now mind you, Page isn’t just any old lawyer; she is counsel to the FBI’s deputy director (Andrew McCabe) and involved in virtually every significant decision the bureau makes. And Strzok is not any old agent; he is deputy assistant director and one of the FBI’s top counterespionage agents — and he steered both relevant investigations, Clinton-emails and Trump-Russia.
This August 8 text exchange does not occur in a vacuum. It is part of ceaseless stream of anti-Trump bile. It is, moreover, just a week before the infamous text in which we learn that top-level bureau officials met in the deputy director’s office to discuss what they saw as the harrowing possibility of a Trump presidency; Strzok urged that, though highly unlikely, this prospect was so intolerable that the bureau needed an “insurance policy” against it — i.e., the Russia investigation.
The August 8 text also occurs against a backdrop in which the FBI has rushed to close the Clinton-emails investigation on an arbitrary deadline for patently political reasons — no other criminal investigation is guided by the electoral calendar. And it occurs at the moment the FBI is moving aggressively to turn its counterintelligence powers against the Trump campaign: An informant has already been deployed, intelligence agents are mobilizing, foreign intelligence contacts have been tapped, and the bureau will soon submit to the FISA court an application to surveil Trump adviser Carter Page — an application that breaks every rule in the book: anonymous foreign sources spouting multiple hearsay, no corroboration, no disclosure to the court that it comes from the opposition presidential campaign, no explanation that the foreigner who supplied the unverified allegations has been booted from the investigation for lying, etc.
We are supposed to dump our "common sense" and believe that all of this is just Co-Inky-Dence.
I still maintain that there are at least 3 versions of the OIG Report - the original un-redacted report that went to DOJ & FBI & those interviewed for their response - the Report that came back with everything they marked that they wanted removed AND the final report with all the weasel words the public got to see. It's also pretty clear that the preamble and the conclusion were written based on the "report they allowed the public to see" as the Interior of the 568 page report is FULL of items that show the Preamble and Conclusion have very little in common with the bulk of the report.
They dumped the common sense and expect us to do the same. The entire thing is an exercise in "we must SAVE the credibility of the FBI and the DOJ".
Do you know of any subsequent actions taken by them or are you going to indict because they had an opinion.
An opinion is "I don't like so-and-so."
Having an "insurance policy" to prevent something from happening and directly stating that one, acting as an FBI agent, "will stop so-and-so from becoming President," are VERY different things.
So Comey claims he didn’t know Anthony Weiner and Huma Abedin were married? Did he stop to wonder why he had 33,000 of Hillary’s private emails on his computer along with all those pictures of his junk?
When interviewed by the Investigators - Comey worked to convince them that he was not Corrupt - Just a stupid idiot. No way he was not aware that Huma Abedine and Anthony Weiner were married and that Huma Abedine was Hilary's right hand woman and Vice Chair of her Campaign. https://twitter.com/AlanDersh/status/990746960670941185
It wasn't just 33,000 emails - it was 347,000 beginning from 2006. FBI Assistant Direct in Charge (ADIC) of New York Office, William Sweeney is told about the Clinton emails on the Weiner Laptop on September 28, 2016. He immediately tells McCabe who is in charge of the Clinton MYE (Mid Year Exam - code name for the Clinton investigation ... umm "matter")
Very different treatment of the two candidates & YES, the fact that Wray of the FBI said he would adopt all of the OIG recommendations indicated that they have a serious Culture Problem at the FBI. Wray also said in his presser that he has already referred 5 agents to their version of Internal Affairs - the same division that recommended the McCabe firing and criminal indictments.
For all his assiduous attention to detail, IG Horowitz has weaved a no-common-sense report.
On August 8, 2016, FBI lawyer Lisa Page, borderline hysterical, texts her lover, agent Peter Strzok, about GOP candidate Donald Trump: “He’s not ever going to become president, right? Right?!”
Strzok replies, “No. No he won’t. We’ll stop it.”
Now mind you, Page isn’t just any old lawyer; she is counsel to the FBI’s deputy director (Andrew McCabe) and involved in virtually every significant decision the bureau makes. And Strzok is not any old agent; he is deputy assistant director and one of the FBI’s top counterespionage agents — and he steered both relevant investigations, Clinton-emails and Trump-Russia.
This August 8 text exchange does not occur in a vacuum. It is part of ceaseless stream of anti-Trump bile. It is, moreover, just a week before the infamous text in which we learn that top-level bureau officials met in the deputy director’s office to discuss what they saw as the harrowing possibility of a Trump presidency; Strzok urged that, though highly unlikely, this prospect was so intolerable that the bureau needed an “insurance policy” against it — i.e., the Russia investigation.
The August 8 text also occurs against a backdrop in which the FBI has rushed to close the Clinton-emails investigation on an arbitrary deadline for patently political reasons — no other criminal investigation is guided by the electoral calendar. And it occurs at the moment the FBI is moving aggressively to turn its counterintelligence powers against the Trump campaign: An informant has already been deployed, intelligence agents are mobilizing, foreign intelligence contacts have been tapped, and the bureau will soon submit to the FISA court an application to surveil Trump adviser Carter Page — an application that breaks every rule in the book: anonymous foreign sources spouting multiple hearsay, no corroboration, no disclosure to the court that it comes from the opposition presidential campaign, no explanation that the foreigner who supplied the unverified allegations has been booted from the investigation for lying, etc.
We are supposed to dump our "common sense" and believe that all of this is just Co-Inky-Dence.
I still maintain that there are at least 3 versions of the OIG Report - the original un-redacted report that went to DOJ & FBI & those interviewed for their response - the Report that came back with everything they marked that they wanted removed AND the final report with all the weasel words the public got to see. It's also pretty clear that the preamble and the conclusion were written based on the "report they allowed the public to see" as the Interior of the 568 page report is FULL of items that show the Preamble and Conclusion have very little in common with the bulk of the report.
They dumped the common sense and expect us to do the same. The entire thing is an exercise in "we must SAVE the credibility of the FBI and the DOJ".
Why wouldn’t you expect the report to be redacted and yes some agents were referred for misdeeds. That means there is some sort of conspiracy. So in your mind you believe there are 3 other reports floating around, I guess when you have no facts you need to rely on belief.
[quote]Originally Posted by trobesmom
And he uses an unsecure phone. Yeah, he's brilliant.
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Originally Posted by TheMoreYouKnow
Can you provide some proof of that claim?
The "he" was Obama and he did not use an unsecured phone to call Clinton ..... BUT, Clinton's phone and laptops/ipads/iphones were ALL "unsecured" during her communications with President Obama while she was in Russia .... which is the time period that the report referred to. We know this because of FOIA requests and Text/emails from the FBI.
Horowitz’s report is referring to a draft of Comey’s speech dated June 30, 2016, at 9:50 a.m., which states: [Clinton] also used her personal email extensively while outside the United States, including from the territory of sophisticated adversaries. That use included an email exchange with the President while Secretary Clinton was on the territory of such an adversary. Given that combination of factors, we assess it is possible that hostile actors gained access to Secretary Clinton’s personal email.
In the draft circulated at 4:24 p.m. the same day, the reference to the president, as the IG report remarks, “was changed to ‘another senior government official,’ and ultimately was omitted.”
Signs Point to Russia
Perhaps as significant as the FBI’s efforts to insulate Obama is its decision to conceal the identity of the foreign adversary. Documents that American Greatness has assembled working with an independent researcher, the pseudonymous Twitter user “Undercover Huber,” strongly suggest that the country in question is Russia. Further, it was the president, Barack Obama, who initiated contact with Clinton on her unsecure server while she was there.
Clinton’s itinerary as Secretary of State shows that from June 28 to 29, 2012 she was in St. Petersburg, Russia for the APEC Women and the Economy Forum.
According to a response to a Freedom of Information Act application from Judicial Watch, on June 28, 2012, Obama emailed Clinton. On the same date, Clinton replied to Obama. A third email Judicial Watch sought was a July 1, 2012 communication to Clinton from her State Department assistant Monica Hanley. It is that last email that the FBI asked Clinton about in her July 2, 2016 interview with the Bureau regarding her server.
He then goes through the FBI 302 reports that were posted on the FBI Vault.
Who knows what else they did. Remember the intel community can both destroy and fabricate evidence as was shown by wikileaks. What connections did Horowitz find connecting this scandal with BO, the CIA, DOJ and NSA. This whole thing smacks of coverup by the very institutions that are supposed to be held to the highest standard. If they are breaking the rules we have real trouble.
A reminder: rogue agents in the FBI & DOJ targeted a billionaire Presidential candidate and sitting President. Imagine how easy they think it is to run over you?
That’s the frightening part. We are watching the full force of The State go thru every crook and cranny of Trump’s life, his Family's life and the life of everyone he associates with.
Think of what that power could do to you if it decided you needed crushing?
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