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correct-he was starting the provocation there. Now had he called the pd, and blocked their escape vehicle in or simply slashed their tires, they would be caught and he would be free.
Or just filmed it. He's got the rest of his life to think about what he should have done.
The stand your ground law normally protects cowards. Nonshe shouldn’t have parked in a handicapped spot, but her boyfriend did what he was supposed to do when he saw a man step to his girlfriend, now he is dead. It’s always the ones who can’t fight that pull out a gun.
Fist fighting is for the uncivilized. Just because you are physically stronger does not make your argument correct.
It's curious to me that people are criticizing a verbal exchange, but not a physical assault.
Words are just that. You don't like them? Ignore them. You don't get to assault someone because of what's being said.
I agree.....to a point. If SYG is a "judgement call", it also is the same if you see a man screaming at your wife and kids and have no idea what is going on...
Mitigating circumstances seem to only apply to people with guns.
In the "old days" it would be consider a "have to" to quickly intervene physically if someone was accosting your wife (or GF) and kids.
So let's not pretend this "fight" was started with the push. The fight was started by the shooter.
Now, it's up to the Sheriff and DA, etc. and maybe a jury to decide whether that meets the test....
Another poster on this thread mentioned that brandishing, without being followed with a shot, isn't allowed in Florida.
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My post above ^^^^^ is post #753 on the thread.
I also did a similar post that is somewhere between #500 and #708.
It was much earlier in the thread that I noticed a post or posts that made the reference (but it wasn't from NY Refugee....I think it was NomadicDrifter).
However, NY Refugee was nice enough to reply to my "between #500 and #708" post with a statute (the only applicable statute?), and NY Refugee's reply to me (the statute) is post #709.
The shooter started the hostile confrontation. Guy walks out and sees some dude berating his GF, goes and intervenes by pushing (not hitting, grabbing or anything), dude pulls out his gun and fires. The guy did not attempt to continue anything more after the push, nor it appeared is leaped nor approached the guy after the push.
I hope the guy is charged.
So what is this now; go start s**t with someone's GF, then shoot when the GF's BF comes out and intervenes? BS.
Lesson learned here is when in Florida, and you need to intervene in a similar situation, just beat the dude unconscious and while at it, try to feel and get his gun (if he has) cause the pansy may just shoot you for daring stopping him from berating and possibly threatening violence against your girl.
The shooter started the hostile confrontation. Guy walks out and sees some dude berating his GF, goes and intervenes by pushing (not hitting, grabbing or anything), dude pulls out his gun and fires. The guy did not attempt to continue anything more after the push, nor it appeared is leaped nor approached the guy after the push.
I hope the guy is charged.
So what is this now; go start s**t with someone's GF, then shoot when the GF's BF comes out and intervenes? BS.
Lesson learned here is when in Florida, and you need to intervene in a similar situation, just beat the dude unconscious and while at it, try to feel and get his gun (if he has) cause the pansy may just shoot you for daring stopping him from berating and possibly threatening violence against your girl.
Thanks for those crib-notes on the proper way to beat up old people that are not actually harming anyone but yelling.
I especially liked how they're the "pansy" and that beating down someone 30-40 years older than you thus would make you the hero of the story.
Also stop adding imaginary events like "possibly threatening violence" bit to even further justify how things should have gone down.
I don't agree with either persons bad actions in this confrontation.
My way of dealing with this would have been: "Eff off you old fart, go buy your depends." followed by getting in my car and leaving.
Your way ends with you serving time for felony assault or possibly even manslaughter since all it takes is a head bonk or a heart attack. But at least you kept it real by beating up an old dude. Something to keep you feeling good about yourself when you miss the next 4-5 birthdays of those kids and your lady finds a new daddy for them.
Can't have people emerging alive when there's a disagreement over a parking spot. The civilized thing is to make sure there's at least one burial.
Actually the civilized thing is to discuss it like adults.
No sound on the video so we dont know if the driver escalated the confrontation or the shooter.
Evidently it became heated.
The civilized thing to do is to confront the man you feel is disrespecting your wife. You do this by asking what the problem is.. If he turns attitude on you, then you call the police if you feel threatened or the guy won't let you leave.
What you dont do ie run up to and push them so hard they they are thrown to the ground by the force of the push.
Perfect day: Assault victim only calls the police.
Bad day: Assault victime tries to duke it out with you.
Worst day: You get shot.
These are all very likely scenarios.
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