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View Poll Results: Is the FBI, CIA, NSA, etc. politicized for Democrat Party and against Republican Party?
Yes 116 48.54%
No 123 51.46%
Voters: 239. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 09-01-2019, 12:21 PM
 
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Yes, they’re all federal government union employees. They want more control/power, higher pay, better benefits, etc. Clinton won metro DC 93%-4%. Conservatives do not go into government work, republicans will always be fighting an uphill battle against them.

 
Old 09-01-2019, 12:22 PM
 
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No.

I say I have never seen a More Paranoid and Gullible bunch than the Trumpsters.
Not a conspiracy theory on earth they don't seem to buy, and now they are paranoid to boot...
thinking that all the Main Intelligence and Law Enforcement Agencies are out to get them...them...the party of law and order.


It could be that all the Law Enforcement Agencies are in the Deep State, out to get Trump,
or it could be that they are just doing their jobs and Trump once again has been up to something shady and is lying about it.
"I say I have never seen a More Paranoid and Gullible bunch than the Trumpsters.
Not a conspiracy theory on earth they don't seem to buy,"
I say I have never seen a More Paranoid and Gullible bunch than the ANTi-Trumpsters.
Not a conspiracy theory on earth they don't seem to buy,
It was the DEMS who DEMANDED the Special Council, NOT the repubs, for THEIR "conspiracy theory!
 
Old 09-01-2019, 12:23 PM
 
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So the national security community is siding with Democrats?
 
Old 09-01-2019, 05:18 PM
 
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"I say I have never seen a More Paranoid and Gullible bunch than the Trumpsters.
Not a conspiracy theory on earth they don't seem to buy,"
I say I have never seen a More Paranoid and Gullible bunch than the ANTi-Trumpsters.
Not a conspiracy theory on earth they don't seem to buy,
It was the DEMS who DEMANDED the Special Council, NOT the repubs, for THEIR "conspiracy theory!
The deep state tribe wins that contest going away, every time the FBI doesn't indict someone its always a conspiracy. That would make remote sense but this is Trump's DOJ so he and Barr must be part of the deep state.
 
Old 09-01-2019, 06:02 PM
 
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Yes, they’re all federal government union employees. They want more control/power, higher pay, better benefits, etc. Clinton won metro DC 93%-4%. Conservatives do not go into government work, republicans will always be fighting an uphill battle against them.
Let's make sure the military knows how Republicans really feel about them.
 
Old 09-01-2019, 07:36 PM
 
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I believe, just going on what evidence we do have from the MO of these agencies, that their agenda is neither Democratic nor Republican.

Their agenda is wholly their own. This is especially true in the CIA, which appears to consider itself above the laws of the United States and is apparently beholden to no legislative body.
 
Old 09-01-2019, 07:38 PM
 
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I believe, just going on what evidence we do have from the MO of these agencies, that their agenda is neither Democratic nor Republican.

Their agenda is wholly their own. This is especially true in the CIA, which appears to consider itself above the laws of the United States and is apparently beholden to no legislative body.
Well there is your belief and then there are facts.
 
Old 09-01-2019, 07:56 PM
 
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Well there is your belief and then there are facts.
Are you telling me that you have "facts" concerning the operations of the CIA?

All we really have are the long-since concluded legal proceedings of things like the Franklin Coverup, or COIN-Tel, etc.

Otherwise we have to take their behavior as an organization in lieu of fact. This is especially true of their apparent lack of accountability to Congress. No one else could demand that the Congress arrive individually, in person, to their headquarters and restrict access to information from the very same.
 
Old 09-01-2019, 08:09 PM
 
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Are you telling me that you have "facts" concerning the operations of the CIA?

All we really have are the long-since concluded legal proceedings of things like the Franklin Coverup, or COIN-Tel, etc.

Otherwise we have to take their behavior as an organization in lieu of fact. This is especially true of their apparent lack of accountability to Congress. No one else could demand that the Congress arrive individually, in person, to their headquarters and restrict access to information from the very same.
You used the word belief, what exactly are the facts.
 
Old 09-01-2019, 08:23 PM
 
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You used the word belief, what exactly are the facts.
I used the word "belief" because only a fool would use the word "fact" in the context of a necessarily-clandestine national security agency.

I was very explicit about this. Which part was not clear to you?
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