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Old 09-17-2018, 02:34 PM
 
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Actually, not correct. The decision to kill is made when the weapon is drawn. All that is left after that is a pre-determined stimulus: "If I see X, I fire."

Making sure of where the hell you are should come before drawing the weapon.

But of course, this would not be the first time police have killed someone without making sure they were in the right place.
Actually it is correct that you didn't make the decision to kill until you pulled the trigger. Drawing your weapon is not attempted killing. But we have no idea of when she drew her side arm in the first place.
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Old 09-17-2018, 02:35 PM
 
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So what are you saying, she knew she was at his apartment and shot him? Why?
Everyone is assuming the "normal person" scenario.

Let's see what the toxicology report comes back as.

If she was still something like BAC = 0.09 and the test was given hours after the shooting I think that would clear up the whole situation pretty quick eh?

How long do they usually take? I'd have thought they'd be available by now.
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Old 09-17-2018, 02:38 PM
 
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The hall was lighted. And she still would have felt the mat underfoot.
Not necessarily, the mat looks small and thin and she could've stepped around it or not noticed it under foot.


So if she was aware it was not her apartment, then why did she proceed the way she did? A plausible reason hasn't been proffered yet.
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Old 09-17-2018, 02:40 PM
 
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Everyone is assuming the "normal person" scenario.

Let's see what the toxicology report comes back as.

If she was still something like BAC = 0.09 and the test was given hours after the shooting I think that would clear up the whole situation pretty quick eh?
I think she was probably just tired and zoned out and was negligent by a normal person standard.

I don't think even if she was plastered some of the posters would stop claiming she intentionally and knowingly went there to shoot him. They're presuming her guilty until proven innocent.
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Old 09-17-2018, 02:45 PM
 
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I think she was probably just tired and zoned out and was negligent by a normal person standard.

I don't think even if she was plastered some of the posters would stop claiming she intentionally and knowingly went there to shoot him. They're presuming her guilty until proven innocent.
That is not the standard one uses on whether or not you charge someone. She might not have had any intentions when she went to the door to shoot someone. At some point that all changed.
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Old 09-17-2018, 02:47 PM
 
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That's why there is a VERY wide sentencing range for such crimes.

She's going to jail, the question is for how long.
Lol...no way is she going to jail. I wish that we could put $500 bucks on it. No possible way will she be behind bars even if she’s found guilty.

She might be able to get her trial moved to another neighboring county. They let her surrender in Kaufman County. If they let her go to trial there, she might even beat the case.

I say this because they’ve now found weed in Jean’s apartment. That increases her chances to walk exponentially. They’ll say that he was a crazed pothead, and she was right to fear for her life with only split seconds to think.

I can’t see her behind bars. Not in the state of Texas. No way man.
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Old 09-17-2018, 02:50 PM
 
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I think she was probably just tired and zoned out and was negligent by a normal person standard.

I don't think even if she was plastered some of the posters would stop claiming she intentionally and knowingly went there to shoot him. They're presuming her guilty until proven innocent.
Admittedly, intent sounds pretty ludicrous without any provable backstory to support it. I’ve seen nothing yet indicating that they knew each other. Without that, I don’t buy the intent to murder.

This sounds to me like a complicated case of gross negligence. Nothing more.
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Old 09-17-2018, 02:51 PM
 
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That is not the standard one uses on whether or not you charge someone. She might not have had any intentions when she went to the door to shoot someone. At some point that all changed.

Yeah according to what we know it changed when she believed she was confronting an "intruder" in "her apartment".
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Old 09-17-2018, 02:55 PM
 
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Yeah according to what we know it changed when she believed she was confronting an "intruder" in "her apartment".
If not for her obviously bogus back story that might be a legitimate position.
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Old 09-17-2018, 02:57 PM
 
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But what is the motive?
I think she completed her shift and then stopped for a few drinks afterwards to chill out. Probably not legally drunk, but impaired.

This is also not her first shoot
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