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Old 09-29-2018, 11:43 AM
 
Location: Home is Where You Park It
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How about we go with a person is innocent until proven guilty. Seemed like that worked well before.
Sure, I like that. But I also like the idea that an accuser should be taken seriously and not discounted.
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Old 09-29-2018, 11:43 AM
 
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90 day limit is a nice compromise.
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Old 09-29-2018, 11:44 AM
 
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Still any person making a claim or accusation has the burden of proof. It doesn't have to be beyond a reasonable doubt, but we should be skeptical of someone trying to sink someone's employment prospects or reputation, unless there is a preponderance of evidence if not clear and convincing evidence supporting the claim.

Also, the relevance and significance of the derogatory claim has to the job or decision at hand counts to.

Would you hire someone who had not one, but three women independently saying that the person in question had raped or assaulted them?

Especially when you have many other qualified candidates to choose from?

Be honest.
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Old 09-29-2018, 11:46 AM
 
Location: Eureka CA
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Ridiculous. And obviously not proposed by a crime victim. How about a 48 hour limit for reporting embezzlement?
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Old 09-29-2018, 11:47 AM
 
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Again ....this has nothing to do with justice. It is about power. Like it always is with Marxists, none of their ideas or policies can exist without a victim. The entire ideology is a “Somebody done someone wrong song†.

Yep liberals and feminist are trying to brainwash everyone with propaganda to jump on the sexual offense hysteria, so that liberals and feminist will have all the power.

That's why my beliefs when they aren't just by my native intuition originate from English common law and Christianity and the like, before leftist took over everything.
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Old 09-29-2018, 11:49 AM
 
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We need a timely reporting law so that people's lives can no longer be disrupted and democracy hijacked by ancient allegations which cannot be proven or disproven due to the lapse of time, eroding memories, and generally making it impossible to ascertain factual events from fictional allegations.

We can all agree that sexual assaults are more impactful on society than property crimes, right?

So, in CA and NY/RI, you have 5 days and 24 hours, respectively, to notify law enforcement of the theft of any firearm.

Surely for something even more emergent than a missing piece of property, we can impose the same reporting requirements on a far more serious offense, to ensure that investigations are contemporaneously initiated, that evidence is preserved, and so that the system ensures equal justice in the form of sufficient due process, for both victim and accused.

OP, your idea reveals a total lack of awareness of the issue you reference. It is an ignorant approach and suggestion.
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Old 09-29-2018, 11:49 AM
 
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Would you hire someone who had not one, but three women independently saying that the person in question had raped or assaulted them?

Especially when you have many other qualified candidates to choose from?

Be honest.
There is only one remotely credible claim and even it is refuted by the only other eye-witness and the preponderance of evidence is on the job applicant's side. Also it depends on the claim and its relevance and significance to the job position.


I have great contempt for those who defame others.
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Old 09-29-2018, 11:53 AM
 
Location: My House
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I think any time before the statute of limitations is up should be fine, legally.

As for things like bringing it up publicly with no intent to prosecute, but because you finally feel like making it public?

No time limit.
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Old 09-29-2018, 11:56 AM
 
Location: My House
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Still any person making a claim or accusation has the burden of proof. It doesn't have to be beyond a reasonable doubt, but we should be skeptical of someone trying to sink someone's employment prospects or reputation, unless there is a preponderance of evidence if not clear and convincing evidence supporting the claim.

Also, the relevance and significance of the derogatory claim has to the job or decision at hand counts to.
Of course the person making the claim runs the risk of not being believed.
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Old 09-29-2018, 11:56 AM
 
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The problem with people who fall into the partisan trap is that they become blind to the fact that their "side" does the same thing. The right wing has mastered the art of selling propaganda and they create victims of men, white people, Christians, as well as the evil left, and their PC politics. Many on the right are selling men as victims of evil, untrustworthy women, or feminazis out to destroy them.
That's a joke. The Republicans hardly ever address or acknowledge any concerns of whites and males.
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