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Old 11-14-2018, 11:32 AM
 
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Apparently it didn't work.
But who says this other law would have done any better, if it was the same?

And perhaps the Feds need to be helping more with all of these NATIONAL parks.
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Old 11-14-2018, 11:35 AM
 
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Sounds like it may have been a duplication of efforts already in the works, though.

"In a written statement explaining his decision, Brown said a process that began in May 2015 with the utilities commission and Cal Fire is already in place for addressing issues present in SB 1463. The two groups examine fire-threat maps and fire safety regulations on areas with overhead utilities facilities, he wrote."

Gov. Brown vetoes Moorlach's wildfire-risk bill
That's not enough. Just worrying about the areas where there are overhead utilities is nonsense. What about all the mismanagement in the other areas that causes the fires to spread like they do? What happens when a fire is started somewhere other than under a utility wire? It's ALWAYS someone else's fault with Democrats. They are trying to blame the utility companies while they failed to manage the rest of the areas which actually caused the huge fire to spread like it did.
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Old 11-14-2018, 11:36 AM
 
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But who says this other law would have done any better, if it was the same?

And perhaps the Feds need to be helping more with all of these NATIONAL parks.
There you go...Blame someone else.
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Old 11-14-2018, 11:39 AM
 
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If you don't clean the fuel out, you have an accident waiting to happen.
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Old 11-14-2018, 11:40 AM
 
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There you go...Blame someone else.
It's complicated because CA doesnt own most of the land. It should be a joint effort. I wonder if the feds have done anything about this (and Obama was in office at that time, so hey, but now Trump is, so we can wonder what either Interior Dept has done in regards to this)
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Old 11-14-2018, 11:59 AM
 
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But who says this other law would have done any better, if it was the same?

And perhaps the Feds need to be helping more with all of these NATIONAL parks.
If they added more funding and resources to tackle the issue? Yes who knows. All those folks without homes now are wondering the same, who knows if it would've worked.
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Old 11-14-2018, 12:24 PM
 
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Terrible , who knows how many lives and property could of been saved

Voting Dem too often leads to death and destruction.
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California Gov. Jerry Brown’s decision to veto a 2016 bipartisan bill aimed at mitigating wildfire risks from power lines and utility equipment has become the focus of critics as fires rage across the state.

Wildfires have scorched more than 221,000 acres across California since Thursday, and Brown’s critics are pointing to the two-year-old veto as news reports suggest power lines may have sparked the deadliest wildfire in California’s history.

Cal Fire also blamed PG&E power lines and equipment for deadly wildfires that ravaged northern California last year. Those 16 fires killed at least 44 people and destroyed hundreds of structures.


https://dailycaller.com/2018/11/13/c...rown-wildfire/
You might want to research a little further.
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/je...wildfire-bill/
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Old 11-14-2018, 04:54 PM
 
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You might want to research a little further.
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/je...wildfire-bill/
They're saying the same thing as this poster "well we don't know if would've made a difference".

It's a cop out. I'm sure all those people that lost homes would've preferred that Brown signed it, And then you can claim it didn't work. His legacy is burning to the ground like a California wildfire.

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But who says this other law would have done any better, if it was the same?

And perhaps the Feds need to be helping more with all of these NATIONAL parks.
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Old 11-14-2018, 04:59 PM
 
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They're saying the same thing as this poster "well we don't know if would've made a difference".

It's a cop out. I'm sure all those people that lost homes would've preferred that Brown signed it, And then you can claim it didn't work. His legacy is burning to the ground like a California wildfire.
Still sounds like it wasnt needed and would have complicated things. From the Snopes link:

"Senate Bill 1463 would have prolonged the safety work already going on by requiring the participation of certain entities, which was unnecessary because CAL FIRE was already a party to the proceeding, and local governments and fire departments could also participate.

In fact, [at] the time the vetoed legislation was introduced, the CPUC and CAL FIRE were already deeply engaged in an ongoing fire safety rulemaking process (R.15-05-006, Rulemaking to Develop and Adopt Fire-Threat Maps and Fire-Safety Regulations). Phase 1 of this effort began in 2013 and was completed in 2015. Phase 2 implemented new fire safety regulations in high priority areas of the state as called for in the vetoed legislation, thus making the bill redundant. In January 2018, the Statewide Fire-Threat Map was approved.
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Old 11-14-2018, 06:12 PM
 
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Just another of his many failures for our state. Doubtful his successor will be much better.
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