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Old 11-14-2018, 07:12 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles (Native)
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Just another of his many failures for our state. Doubtful his successor will be much better.
Newsom will be even worse .
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Old 11-15-2018, 09:23 PM
 
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Yeah and him telling California to shape up and take care of this problem is exactly what the President should do. What did Obama do for this problem in his eight years?

Obama came to California with his hat in hand, hitting up big donors for money while he clogged up all the traffic everywhere which was already bad. He seemed to be out there every other month.
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Old 11-15-2018, 09:40 PM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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The US Forest service is part of the US Government, hence, D J trump's fowled up administration. So he is in retrospect should be held accountable, along with so many other tragic events.
No. The Farm Bill signed by Obama in 2014 transferred forest management to the states. California's problem is onerous restrictions on forest management for both publicly and privately owned forest lands. Specifically, for controlled burns, prescribed burns, creating firebreaks, allowing the clearing of dead brush, etc.
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Old 11-15-2018, 09:43 PM
 
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I have another question. Does Mexico have a lot of wildfires, too? I just read about some of them in the past but do they coincide with California's as far as timing goes?
Mexico does NOT have the onerous restrictions on forest management that California has. Problem identified.
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Old 11-15-2018, 09:44 PM
 
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Who is he threatening to withhold money from? The majority of these forests are managed by the federal government, not the state of California.
Incorrect, per the 2014 Farm Bill signed by Obama.
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Old 11-15-2018, 09:48 PM
 
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No. The Farm Bill signed by Obama in 2014 transferred forest management to the states. California's problem is onerous restrictions on forest management for both publicly and privately owned forest lands. Specifically, for controlled burns, prescribed burns, creating firebreaks, allowing the clearing of dead brush, etc.
No, under the Good Neighbor Authority, it said states could enter into cooperative agreements with the Feds for managing, not that they now had to take it all over. Do you have an article citing such an agreement between the Feds and CA where they agreed CA would do it all?

https://www.fs.fed.us/managing-land/farm-bill/gna
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Old 11-15-2018, 09:56 PM
 
Location: Lone Mountain Las Vegas NV
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No. The Farm Bill signed by Obama in 2014 transferred forest management to the states. California's problem is onerous restrictions on forest management for both publicly and privately owned forest lands. Specifically, for controlled burns, prescribed burns, creating firebreaks, allowing the clearing of dead brush, etc.
why do you lie so much in your posts?

The Act simply allows the negotiation of the right to deal with forests.

And the Feds do not have the authority to transfer responsibilty to the states even if they wished to.

And for the person who asked the Baja California burns regularly. last big one in 2017.

+Much lower population density.
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Old 11-15-2018, 10:16 PM
 
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No, under the Good Neighbor Authority, it said states could enter into cooperative agreements with the Feds for managing
Which they did. California manages the federal forest lands.

http://bofdata.fire.ca.gov/board_bus...t_01_27_16.pdf
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Old 11-15-2018, 10:28 PM
 
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Which they did. California manages the federal forest lands.

http://bofdata.fire.ca.gov/board_bus...t_01_27_16.pdf
Err....did you actually read through that? They did sign a master agreement...as a blanket statement saying they could work out agreements with the Forests. It still mentions things in there are partnering and otherwise working with the Feds, as in both managing it. That's what this whole thing spells out. The ability to make it easier to partner, not that they have to do it now.

Please quote where it says California now is solely in charge of managing and the Feds therefore have no responsibility or blame in forest management or mismanagement.
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Old 11-15-2018, 10:39 PM
 
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No. The Farm Bill signed by Obama in 2014 transferred forest management to the states. California's problem is onerous restrictions on forest management for both publicly and privately owned forest lands. Specifically, for controlled burns, prescribed burns, creating firebreaks, allowing the clearing of dead brush, etc.
Still with this... Did you not read any of the replies to your last attempt with this???

It's almost like you're hoping people don't have a memory??
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