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Old 01-07-2019, 09:51 AM
 
Location: In The Thin Air
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Originally Posted by Mouser View Post
Sadly, nothing will change until some liberal New Democrat or Hollywood Elite

is directly effected by the actions of an Illegal Alien


I would really doubt that the children of Illegal Aliens have had any

inoculations putting American children at more of a risk



For some of us who have been effected it's hard to comprehend why
anyone would not want to have a secure border
The bolded is another myth. Everybody wants border security. Most people don't want a useless wall.

 
Old 01-07-2019, 09:52 AM
 
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Originally Posted by ELOrocks17 View Post
Is making it harder and harder to win anything in 2020.

It was a longshot as it sits before the shutdown, but they are stupidly shooting themselves in the foot e very single day that insist on this petty obstructionist nonsense. Why dont they see that?
Experts and people with average intelligence know that the wall is a bad idea and it won't work and in fact all the prototypes failed.

The GOP in Congress know it's stupid too but they are afraid of Trump running their reelections.
 
Old 01-07-2019, 09:57 AM
 
Location: East Coast of the United States
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But what if he never gets the wall. Then he failed massively as a President.

That's the problem.

For him now it isn't about the best way to secure the border, it is saving face.
The Border Wall showdown was decades in the making. Most Americans don't want illegal immigrants pouring in from Mexico indefinitely.

And most rational people understand why you must have a strong, impenetrable border between a rich country and a third-world country.
 
Old 01-07-2019, 10:03 AM
 
Location: Denver
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Originally Posted by BigCityDreamer View Post
The Border Wall showdown was decades in the making. Most Americans don't want illegal immigrants pouring in from Mexico indefinitely.
And most rational people understand why you must have a strong, impenetrable border between a rich country and a third-world country.
So impenetrable

 
Old 01-07-2019, 10:06 AM
 
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Originally Posted by ELOrocks17 View Post
Is making it harder and harder to win anything in 2020.

It was a longshot as it sits before the shutdown, but they are stupidly shooting themselves in the foot e very single day that insist on this petty obstructionist nonsense. Why dont they see that?
Their blind hatred prevents them from seeing any rational views to move the country forward in a positive way.
 
Old 01-07-2019, 10:11 AM
 
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So impenetrable
If we can't detect people with ladders and prevent them from entering how are we going to be able to do it when they don't have ladders ?
Surveillance apparently isn't the total answer democrats are trying to make us believe it is.
 
Old 01-07-2019, 10:13 AM
 
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So impenetrable
All you need is a pole and a hundred foot rope and an entire caravan could leap frog over the wall.

Walls with check points make sense in populated areas. Not so much out in the middle of nowhere.
 
Old 01-07-2019, 10:14 AM
 
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Originally Posted by phma View Post
If we can't detect people with ladders and prevent them from entering how are we going to be able to do it when they don't have ladders ?
Surveillance apparently isn't the total answer democrats are trying to make us believe it is.
Besides that, there are too many low tech ways to beat surveillance systems!
 
Old 01-07-2019, 10:15 AM
 
Location: Eastern NC
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Originally Posted by Toyman at Jewel Lake View Post
Why do you continue to lie? The Republicans in the House passed a bill to fund the wall. Republicans in the Senate did so as well, with a majority. However, Senate Dems couldn't accept that and invoked filibuster rules, which require 60 votes to pass. Dems shut down border security efforts aimed at protecting American citizens and overwhelmed the majority of the Senate.

Wow, rewriting history huh? The Senate passed a continuing resolution 99-0 to fund the government. The House added the $5 billion for the wall, after Trump threw a hissy fit after Coulter and Rush slammed him, knowing full well that it would not pass the Senate.
 
Old 01-07-2019, 10:18 AM
 
Location: Pennsylvania
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Originally Posted by Timmyy View Post
The bolded is another myth. Everybody wants border security. Most people don't want a useless wall.
Lies.
Not everyone wants border security. That lie ranks right up there with "You like your doctor, like your health plan, you can keep them".
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