Welcome to City-Data.com Forum!
U.S. CitiesCity-Data Forum Index
Go Back   City-Data Forum > General Forums > Politics and Other Controversies
 [Register]
Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
View detailed profile (Advanced) or search
site with Google Custom Search

Search Forums  (Advanced)
View Poll Results: Should POTUS declare a state of emergency for the border wall?
Yes 96 34.78%
No 180 65.22%
Voters: 276. You may not vote on this poll

Reply Start New Thread
 
Old 01-11-2019, 03:04 PM
 
4,661 posts, read 1,955,928 times
Reputation: 4650

Advertisements

Voted Yes simply because I see both sides as too stubborn to cave in. If he does this it goes to the courts, the government shutdown ends and the issue is resolved. Presidential power is either increased or decreased. This is nothing new in our Nation.

Given Politicians, regardless of which way the Court Rules both sides will claim victory. Imagine if the real world worked like that. Both sides claim Victory in the Super Bowl(regardless of scores) and their fan base goes wild.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message

 
Old 01-11-2019, 03:16 PM
 
Location: Grosse Ile Michigan
30,708 posts, read 79,848,066 times
Reputation: 39453
Absolutely. It is the only solution for our country. The two sides have stupidly made this an absolute line in the sand. If either party backs down at all , they lose their base and lose any hope of remaining meaningful in the governance of the country. In other words both sides have said to the other, "No I will not negotiate one smidgen, you have to commit suicide right here in front of us all.

It is stupid. I t is not about border security. the Democrats agree we need boarder security. It is not about federal employee pay - thousands of people completely lose their jobs/careers ever month and no one cares. the politicians do not give a snert about the federal employees or the welfare and social security recipients who may not get their checks except as much as they prove useful in their war against each other. they have made this the battle for destruction of each other. No one can back down. The country cannot move forward. We are stuck and potentially stuck for good.

The one solution is for Trump to declare an emergency. that is the only way both sides can move on without one side having to commit suicide (which obviously they are not about to do). the democrats are complete freaking idiots if they try to block the use of emergency powers because 1. they will lose; and 2. they will destroy themselves or out government in the process.

Our parties have become so obsessed with "winning" they cannot govern. A republic cannot function without compromise and our politicians are incapable of compromise because they have all whipped their base into a no compromise frenzy of hate.

I believe this is a crucial moment in the life of our nation and the only way to avert a disaster for everyone is to give both sides a graceful exit. Otherwise, no matter which party loses after a two year shut down, we all lose.

if these people cannot learn how to act like adults and workout comprises as we have done for most of the last 200 years, our country is probably done.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 01-11-2019, 03:17 PM
 
3,357 posts, read 1,235,426 times
Reputation: 2302
[quote=DaBurgh;54119376]Republicans want to keep Americans safe by stopping illegal immigration into the country
Democrats want to risk American lives by establishing sanctuary cities and keeping illegal immigrants in the country[/

Most Republicans do not want a wall paid with our taxpayer money. All Americans want secure borders.
Only the lunatic fringe that thinks otherwise.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 01-11-2019, 03:20 PM
 
Location: New Jersey
1,074 posts, read 950,397 times
Reputation: 467
No, he won't.

Trump is very unpopular, outside of the City-Data.

Get out of the echo chamber.

Trump is tainted and scarred with the Russia affair.

His approval ratings hover in the 30s and 40s.

Most Americans don't want the border wall he wants.

He will not get a 49-state landslide unless the Democrats nominate a far-leftist.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 01-11-2019, 03:22 PM
 
27,623 posts, read 21,140,218 times
Reputation: 11095
The birther-in-thief has made his wall an issue because he and his slimy crime family are being closed in on and surrounded by the wall that Mueller has built.

And the tools are still falling for this major BS deflection.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 01-11-2019, 03:22 PM
 
Location: Salisbury,NC
16,759 posts, read 8,223,014 times
Reputation: 8537
Trump proved today that there is no National Emergency at the border. He undercut his own argument.



Trump is negotiating with himself and losing.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 01-11-2019, 03:43 PM
 
Location: Florida
7,195 posts, read 5,731,911 times
Reputation: 12342
Looks like he’s backing off the emergency idea since everyone rolled their eyes and told him that’s not how any of this works. So that tantrum didn’t work. He’s still holding his breath and turning blue, but the Congress and the Senate passed a bill to guarantee back pay for the furloughed workers. Not sure if Trump is signing it.

Looks like the great negotiator is having some trouble negotiating...
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 01-11-2019, 03:46 PM
 
52,430 posts, read 26,654,666 times
Reputation: 21097
Quote:
Originally Posted by bingo3000 View Post
No, he won't.

Trump is very unpopular, outside of the City-Data.
Reality


Long Lines for Trump Rally
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 01-11-2019, 03:48 PM
 
Location: Florida
7,195 posts, read 5,731,911 times
Reputation: 12342
Quote:
Originally Posted by trobesmom View Post
Who says this would go to the Supreme Court?

Also, looks like he's having second thoughts about that national emergency thing right now. Wonder what got him spooked?
https://thehill.com/homenews/adminis...-do-it-so-fast
His lawyers likely convinced him that the world doesn’t work the way he thinks it does.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 01-11-2019, 03:53 PM
 
2 posts, read 638 times
Reputation: 14
He will win 49 states in Russia.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Please register to post and access all features of our very popular forum. It is free and quick. Over $68,000 in prizes has already been given out to active posters on our forum. Additional giveaways are planned.

Detailed information about all U.S. cities, counties, and zip codes on our site: City-data.com.


Reply
Please update this thread with any new information or opinions. This open thread is still read by thousands of people, so we encourage all additional points of view.

Quick Reply
Message:


Over $104,000 in prizes was already given out to active posters on our forum and additional giveaways are planned!

Go Back   City-Data Forum > General Forums > Politics and Other Controversies

All times are GMT -6. The time now is 04:31 AM.

© 2005-2024, Advameg, Inc. · Please obey Forum Rules · Terms of Use and Privacy Policy · Bug Bounty

City-Data.com - Contact Us - Archive 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31, 32, 33, 34, 35, 36, 37 - Top