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View Poll Results: Do you agree that I-1’s base is being controlled by conservative media?
Yes 58 55.77%
No 43 41.35%
Other 3 2.88%
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Old 01-13-2019, 03:24 PM
 
Location: Richland, Washington
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No. Unlike what the anti Trump movement would like people to believe, Trump supporters support Trump because of their own independent thinking. The left is just upset they didn't get their way so they will sink deeper than the deepest depths possible in order to slander or disparage anyone that supports Trump.
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Old 01-13-2019, 03:25 PM
 
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Spending $5 to save $20 is wise. It's really just that simple.
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Old 01-13-2019, 03:26 PM
 
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He is just throwing out the wall as another squirrel to distract his base from all the Mueller bad news he has. I have a feeling you'd be fine with the country burning to the ground as long as he got his useless wall.
Yeah ok. Because his base really cares about Mueller, Russia, blah blah blah. Get real.
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Old 01-13-2019, 03:51 PM
 
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His base wants the wall, and seems unconcerned if Mexico is paying for it or not. Everytime Trump walks away from the Wall as a priority, his base beats him back into line. He knows very well the Wall got him elected and nothing else. They don't care about any of the other stuff you mentioned, "Build the wall" was the foundation of Trump's success in 2016. If he doesn't at least fight for it, he will go down in flames come 2020.
True.
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Old 01-13-2019, 03:53 PM
 
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No. Unlike what the anti Trump movement would like people to believe, Trump supporters support Trump because of their own independent thinking. The left is just upset they didn't get their way so they will sink deeper than the deepest depths possible in order to slander or disparage anyone that supports Trump.
I haven't sunk into any kind of depths at all. Just stating the obvious. As I said a million times before, had any other republican candidate won this election would not be in this position right now.

Slander is saying things that aren't true. Everything that has been reported is because of what Trump himself has said or done. There is no slander involved. Otherwise, he'd be suing people right and left. Trump has been his own worst enemy.
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Old 01-13-2019, 04:02 PM
 
Location: FL
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When it comes to the Wall, the closest referendum the American people had was the 2016 election. The 2018 midterms was a bunch of local elections where the Wall was not really on the forefront of most (if not all) of those elections.

But by all means the House congressmen and women can do what they feel is in the best interest of their constituents.

So you now have a government shutdown. Who should fold? Should there be a compromise? In the meantime, it's your country that is suffering because both sides are not compromising properly.

But, I'm on Trump's side on this one. 2016 meant the wall should be his priority. It's pretty clear it was that issue that won him that election against all other missteps. So he'd be amiss to turn his back on his base and not push for it. But he should have done it earlier.
and when Mexico sends him the check he can have his wall. He ran on Mexico paying for it or did you miss that part?
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Old 01-13-2019, 04:05 PM
 
Location: FL
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If I may, I will give my 2 cents on the question posed in this thread with another post, minimally tweaked, that I just wrote in another thread; apologies for the redundancy.

Donald Trump does not lead a country; he leads a movement.

Each group involved, in this movement, Trump, his minions and his media propagandists feed off each other.

Trump is president of the Republican base. He takes his most passionate supporters to the land of euphoria and they have the same effect on him.


Thankfully, IMHO, this will eventually free us from him as he ( and his followers) fail to note the reality of his election numbers and the analysis of the same:


Trump, it should never be forgotten, is a president who was put in office with just 46% of the popular vote. He won not on breadth of his support, but on its depth in aggrieved pockets of the electorate. He believes that almost anything he would do to expand his appeal would dilute his relationship with his base. He is not going to take any chances with it. Faulty, short term thinking for a guy who requires applause, as it is surely going to diminish; but it is why he proudly claimed ownership of what has now become the longest government shutdown ever, and is deservedly getting more of the blame for the pain that it is causing.

This is a bad bet for a president who started out historically unpopular, and has pretty much been stuck there since, reports the Brookings Institute. "He would do well to remember that millions who voted for him did it with deep reservations. In bowing to the demands of his strongest supporters aka minions — who channel their rage through Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity and Ann Coulter — Trump is squandering what’s left of the benefit of the doubt from those who were less enthusiastic to vote for him".


Those voters bolted in the 2018 midterms. IMHO, "thank goodness".


In the meantime we as a country are going to be held hostage, much like the 800,000 federal government workers, and ruled by the wannabe dictator and his minions. All the while he cheapens the presidency and demolishes our standing and reputation in the world, and promotes the annihilation of our democracy, with his stunts and lies, that to him are only a means to applause, as he has no belief in the movement he foments.
Well said.
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Old 01-13-2019, 05:15 PM
 
Location: Florida
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You don't know if he's punishing the majority or not. You know he's punishing the majority of the people who happen to vote for President in November of 2016, but that's not the same thing as even punishing the majority of registered voters, as over 44% of registered voters didn't vote for President in the 2016 election. You don't know how that specific 44+% felt. Additionally, all registered voters = a smaller set than all people eligible to vote. One person commented that the election is the one true poll.
Trump targeted blue states in tax reform, while angling to help his corrupt buddies at the same time.

Trump targeted coastal states (mostly liberal) for offshore oil rigs - oh, but then he told only Rick Scott, the Head Trump Flunky, that Florida could be exempt because Scott is such a good little butt-kisser. Not letting up on those other 'scoundrel liberal' states that did not vote for him. No other president has ever acted in such a biased half-assed way, with little to zero political capital, no less.

He declared war on California last week.

He caters to West Va, MS, AL, rust belt states, etc. trying to bring back air and water pollution, coal mining, and factory smokestacks.

He most certainly IS punishing the majority. He takes everything in the entire world personally because it is ALWAYS all about him.

He insults liberals, Dems, Obama almost every single day. He hates people who didn't vote for his fascist regime, and he is the most vindictive person in the world, so if he can get revenge personally--his bottomless ego feels better for 10 minutes. If you don't know that about Trump yet--you don't know Trump.
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Old 01-13-2019, 05:19 PM
 
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Trump targeted blue states in tax reform, while angling to help his corrupt buddies at the same time.

Trump targeted coastal states (mostly liberal) for offshore oil rigs - oh, but then he told only Rick Scott, the Head Trump Flunky, that Florida could be exempt because Scott is such a good little butt-kisser. Not letting up on those other 'scoundrel liberal' states that did not vote for him.

He declared war on California last week.

He caters to West Va, MS, AL, rust belt states, etc. trying to bring back air and water pollution, coal mining, and factory smokestacks.

He most certainly IS punishing the majority. He insults liberals, Dems, Obama almost every single day. He hates people who didn't vote for his fascist regime, and he is the most vindictive person in the world. If you don't know that about Trump yet--you don't know Trump.
Individual 1 continues to punish us government employees (with no cost-of-living increase, holding us hostage).
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Old 01-13-2019, 05:20 PM
 
Location: FL
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Don't Chuckie and Nancy too? Or is it only Trump that is supposed to govern all Americans?
The majority of the people don't want the wall.
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