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Old 02-09-2019, 01:00 PM
 
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I can’t believe that a president would want to separate children from their parents, but the worst thing is, trump had no plans to reunite families and it’s extremely sad! Will some of these young kids and babies ever see their families again?
It speaks to the mean vindictive petty nature of this president.
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Old 02-09-2019, 01:08 PM
 
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Where were you hand wringers when Bush and Obama were doing this? Probably playing video games.

A lot of these kids were trafficked by the cartels so who knows where the parents are? We should do DNA tests on them instead of releasing them to pimps for prostitution. Trump has signed Executive Orders to stop sex trafficking of women and children. Strange no previous president bothered. Ivanka is the White House advisor and a big advocate for women and children in this administration.
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Old 02-09-2019, 01:33 PM
 
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Where were you hand wringers when Bush and Obama were doing this? Probably playing video games.

A lot of these kids were trafficked by the cartels so who knows where the parents are? We should do DNA tests on them instead of releasing them to pimps for prostitution. Trump has signed Executive Orders to stop sex trafficking of women and children. Strange no previous president bothered. Ivanka is the White House advisor and a big advocate for women and children in this administration.
C'mon ... there is stuff to be concerned about here but this ^^^ is not one of them. Until recently the vast majority of illegal immigrants were single men.

So what's with the caravans? Their purpose is to avoid the cartels by traveling en masse. That's also why - to the great fury of Trump - the Mexican government has provided assistance with buses and safe places to sleep. The previous pattern was for single men to scrape enough money together to pay for a cartel-affiliated coyote leaving families behind.

And whatever one thinks of metering, that's what exposes women and children to sex trafficking. The cartels target those who "do not play." Shelters in Mexico try to keep migrants indoors but that can be hard with the lengthly waits for their turn at the port-of-entry.

So, yes, some peal off and head for the border on their own then turn themselves over to the first border patrol encountered. Better that misdemeanor charge than the alternative.

This ^^^ is broken, for about everybody. Those coming north may well have misconceptions. Not all - or even most although I have no clue- may be individually targeted. Still ... that the solution of this country was to discourage those from using our existing processes by taking away children is beneath us.

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Old 02-09-2019, 01:43 PM
 
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C'mon ... there is stuff to be concerned about here ^^^ is not one of them. Until recently the vast majority of illegal immigrants were single men.

So what's with the caravans? Their purpose is to avoid the cartels by traveling en masse. That's also why - to the great fury of Trump - the Mexican government has provided assistance with buses and safe places to sleep. The previous pattern was for single men to scrape enough money together to pay for a cartel-affiliated coyote leaving families behind.

And whatever one thinks of metering, that's what exposes women and children to sex trafficking. The cartels target those who "do not play." Shelters in Mexico try to keep migrants indoors but that can be hard with the lengthly waits for their turn at the port-of-entry.

So, yes, some peal off and head for the border on their own then turn themselves over to the first border patrol encountered. Better that misdemeanor charge than the alternative.

This ^^^ is broken, for about everybody. Those coming north may well have misconceptions. Not all - or even most although I have no clue- may be individually targeted. Still ... that the solution of this country was to discourage those from using our existing processes solution by taking away children is beneath us.
It is Nazi-like policy and it is clearly not beneath Trump sycophantic birthers.
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Old 02-09-2019, 03:42 PM
 
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Are you an immigration lawyer?

Because I can find nothing to support your claim.

You can still apply for asylum even if you passed through Mexico from your home country.

You don't have to apply for asylum to the first country you hit.

Not that I can find....but will wait your legal expertise on this matter.
There is no law, international or otherwise, requiring people to see asylum in the first country they hit.

Given all the violence in Mexico, if one was seeking asylum from violence, why in the world would you seek asylum in Mexico?
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Old 02-09-2019, 05:04 PM
 
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There are laws in this country that allow for asylum.
But trump makes up his own laws, he seems to be fine with rich white Europeans coming here illegally, but if a family from Central America trying to escape danger gets in, they go to jail and get separated from their kids.
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Old 02-09-2019, 05:10 PM
 
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There is no law, international or otherwise, requiring people to see asylum in the first country they hit.
Wrong.
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Old 02-09-2019, 05:11 PM
 
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But trump makes up his own laws, he seems to be fine with rich white Europeans coming here illegally, but if a family from Central America trying to escape danger gets in, they go to jail and get separated from their kids.
Prove that statement. Bet you can’t.

A request for asylum is no guarantee it will be granted. I am willing to bet 90% of all asylum requests will be denied.
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Old 02-09-2019, 05:15 PM
 
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It is Nazi-like policy and it is clearly not beneath Trump sycophantic birthers.
No, supporting the invasion of other countries is Nazi-like policy, and that's what you're doing. In most times and places, invaders have been killed. The fact that you oppose even minor negative consequences for those who invade our country tells us all we need to know about you.
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Old 02-09-2019, 05:21 PM
 
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That's what happens when you are caught breaking the law. You are arrested, investigated, charged or released.

Why are people still confused about this?
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