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IMO it is unbelievable to bring your children on a dangerous journey where they are ill, hungry, walking hours in 100+ degrees without access to clean water which leads to infectious diseases. Not to mention women traveling alone with children facing rape.
Most of the young children have no idea of where they are going or what a border is. Forcing these children to endure these hardships is what is sad and child abuse.
They believe its worth the risk, to escape the hardships or violence in their hometowns, they may be right about that too! Life is not totally fair and safe at all times
No, I think the trump administration are the ignorant ones, only a dictator would take a young child from their mother. It doesn’t matter if they are here illegally, it’s just not right to separate families!
Then that would make the Obama administration a dictatorship also. Obama was the president that began this policy of separating children from their adult guardians at the border. Where was your liberal outrage then??
And Obama, like Trump, did this to DISCOURAGE migrants from coming to our country illegally with their children. To welcome these families, would create a situation where hundreds of thousands of impoverished Central American families would stampede across our southern border. However economic hardship is NOT grounds for asylum.
Again, every day in the US, child services removes children from their parents, when they have committed crimes and need to be locked up.
Instead you should be raging against these Central American migrants for USING their children to try to gain illegal entry into our country. These migrants are the ones putting their children in danger. And imo it is also extremely irresponsible of the parents to have large families when the parents are so poor. Since so many of these migrants are Catholic, the pope should be counseling the adults in developing and struggling countries to stop having babies until their lives turn around.
I realize that, but most people from Mexico or Central America are brown, and somehow this threatens Trump and his base. He just wants people from those countries to work at his hotels/resorts/casinos as waitresses and busboys.
WTH does skin color have to do with anything? Who the hell is threaten by skin color? This is about illegal immigration and bogus asylum seekers. Not our fault that the overwhelming majority are from south of our border. It has never been proven that Trump "knowingly" had any illegals working for him so stop with the false accusations!
I can’t believe that a president would want to separate children from their parents, but the worst thing is, trump had no plans to reunite families and it’s extremely sad! Will some of these young kids and babies ever see their families again?
So let me understand: Do you want to put a 14 yo girl in the same cell with her father and 8 other males?
Then that would make the Obama administration a dictatorship also. Obama was the president that began this policy of separating children from their adult guardians at the border. Where was your liberal outrage then??
And Obama, like Trump, did this to DISCOURAGE migrants from coming to our country illegally with their children. To welcome these families, would create a situation where hundreds of thousands of impoverished Central American families would stampede across our southern border. However economic hardship is NOT grounds for asylum.
Again, every day in the US, child services removes children from their parents, when they have committed crimes and need to be locked up.
Instead you should be raging against these Central American migrants for USING their children to try to gain illegal entry into our country. These migrants are the ones putting their children in danger. And imo it is also extremely irresponsible of the parents to have large families when the parents are so poor. Since so many of these migrants are Catholic, the pope should be counseling the adults in developing and struggling countries to stop having babies until their lives turn around.
Obama did not separate kids form their families. Totally debunked.
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Fact check: Did Obama administration separate families?
This claim, from DHS Secretary Kirstjen Nielsen and conservative commentators, is false, according to immigration advocates and former officials.
The problem is that the Trump supporters who are not trolls and bots are totally just as complicate in spreading lies because for some inexplicable reason they cannot get the hang of googling for facts.
You are proliferating the lies and exaggerations of a proven lifelong liar...why?
Let's look at this another way. All of you complaining about children being "kidnapped", what should be done with these children?
Should we put them in the same cells with their family and unknown people? Will you scream so loudly when one of them is abused by another illegal entrant? Or will you insist the families be let go?
Would you prefer the government use taxpayer money to put all these people in a hotel?
Let's pretend that happens, the children are with their families in a hotel. Now all you've done is incentivize families to make the trip up here. They know theyll at least have a short time living in previously unattainable luxury. This seems like a really bad idea.
How do we prove everyone is who they say they are? How do you prove the parents are actually the parents of the children? Easy, right? DNA. Oh, but we adopted little Julian here. Dont think for one second that wont be the answer to that question.
I understand that there are a bunch of Americans who feel bad for these people and want to help them escape whatever situation they were in so they can lead a better life, but this needs to stop until a solid and reliable process can be put in place to deal with asylum requests. This would include accurately identifying asylum-seekers.
As it stands, one could come to the conclusion this sudden wave of asylum-seekers was created to overload our immigration system not to expose flaws but to exploit them. If it were such an attack, it certainly checks the emotion box. It has also created more of a political divide.
Technology and policy isnt going to slow the pace of illegal immigration. Its akin to a door chime only letting you know someone has entered. You may think a wall is barbaric or outdated but, short of mine fields, it is the only thing that will slow illegal entry so the border patrol folk can catch them.
You can call a wall whatever you want but you know it would help. It's not a total solution but a piece of the broader puzzle.
And you are assuming that the adults these kids were with are actually their parents. Many kids have been trafficked across the border. And you want them returned to the adults with no questions asked? What if they were returned to a child trafficker? Stop and think about that for a minute, will you?
There's some confusion here. The Trump administration as we speak is not separating children from accompanying adults. That practice stopped. Maybe the thread premise is wrong or I've missed something. I assumed we were talking about a past practice that has implications for the ongoing Caravan-asylum issue.
There are two issues:
1. How to ensure that those children who were separated are returned to the rightful parents. Record-keeping was sloppy. There are reports that the numbers separated are higher than first reported.
2. How to ensure that children who continue to arrive at the border are with their parents not a trafficker. Whatever I may think of how Trump has handled matters, there are good-faith efforts by CBP-ICE to monitor this with a system in place. Certainly, it needs to be done.
It's not clear what you are advocating. What would you do differently? No one has ever alleged there are "no questions asked."
Let's look at this another way. All of you complaining about children being "kidnapped", what should be done with these children?
Should we put them in the same cells with their family and unknown people? Will you scream so loudly when one of them is abused by another illegal entrant? Or will you insist the families be let go?
Would you prefer the government use taxpayer money to put all these people in a hotel?
Let's pretend that happens, the children are with their families in a hotel. Now all you've done is incentivize families to make the trip up here. They know theyll at least have a short time living in previously unattainable luxury. This seems like a really bad idea.
How do we prove everyone is who they say they are? How do you prove the parents are actually the parents of the children? Easy, right? DNA. Oh, but we adopted little Julian here. Dont think for one second that wont be the answer to that question.
I understand that there are a bunch of Americans who feel bad for these people and want to help them escape whatever situation they were in so they can lead a better life, but this needs to stop until a solid and reliable process can be put in place to deal with asylum requests. This would include accurately identifying asylum-seekers.
As it stands, one could come to the conclusion this sudden wave of asylum-seekers was created to overload our immigration system not to expose flaws but to exploit them. If it were such an attack, it certainly checks the emotion box. It has also created more of a political divide.
Technology and policy isnt going to slow the pace of illegal immigration. Its akin to a door chime only letting you know someone has entered. You may think a wall is barbaric or outdated but, short of mine fields, it is the only thing that will slow illegal entry so the border patrol folk can catch them.
You can call a wall whatever you want but you know it would help. It's not a total solution but a piece of the broader puzzle.
What liberals and Democrats want is for these entire illegal families to be given amnesty together and given new lives on the taxpayers dime. Nothing less will satisfy the liberal left.
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