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Old 04-10-2019, 04:28 PM
 
Location: Living rent free in your head
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Some of what she says is the truth but there is no attractive alternative for blacks or any other citizen. Owens has a hard sell considering the {R} party is not really nationalist.
Would you call Marco Rubio a nationalist?
How bout Ted Cruz who wanted to increase H1b visa's by 400,000 a year? Does he sound like a nationalist?
I can name {R}s all day long that are globalist? or have the mind set.
It would sort of be tragic if Owens leads millions of blacks into the pathetic {R} party and after Trump leaves office they wake up surrounded by war mongering globalist who really do not care about average Americans.
You think that she's an "attractive alternative"? Before she decided to pander to Republicans and tout Nationalism as being the best thing since sliced bread, she sued her high school for "racist threats" and got a 37k settlement for claiming she was called the N word. And more recently after stiffing her landlord for 6 months rent she files a lawsuit for 'mold' in her apartment

just sayin...
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Old 04-10-2019, 04:37 PM
 
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Basically, Candace Owens broke her foot off in Lieu's ass.
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Old 04-10-2019, 04:41 PM
 
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No kidding! You can hear the whip cracking and hyperventilating from the Democrats on here, calling black folks (in their words) “Token, Uncle Tom” if an African American vote differently other than Democrat.

“Sell their soul”? Really?
I know the feeling, as one member of a gay, interracial couple, everyone thinks we should be Democrats. Of course, they are surprised to learn that we are Republicans and even more surprised when they aren't able to have a discussion about, what I consider basic knowledge.
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Old 04-10-2019, 04:49 PM
 
Location: Silicon Valley, CA
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It would sort of be tragic if Owens leads millions of blacks into the pathetic {R} party and after Trump leaves office they wake up surrounded by war mongering globalist who really do not care about average Americans.
Well, the point is, Owens' words aren't by design to attract other African Americans into the GOP. She's really catering to white conservatives who can then point to her and say, "See? We're not racist."

What policies that other GOP politicians that are globalist or nationalist (insular) in nature doesn't really matter in terms of policy.

On another matter, there are plenty of black Republicans or black conservatives who don't make absurd statements denying white nationalism or run down their fellow black people, like Colin Powell, Condoleeza Rice, or Tim Scott. Candice Owens, sadly, isn't one of them.
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Old 04-10-2019, 05:01 PM
 
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Well, the point is, Owens' words aren't by design to attract other African Americans into the GOP. She's really catering to white conservatives who can then point to her and say, "See? We're not racist."

What policies that other GOP politicians that are globalist or nationalist (insular) in nature doesn't really matter in terms of policy.

On another matter, there are plenty of black Republicans or black conservatives who don't make absurd statements denying white nationalism or run down their fellow black people, like Colin Powell, Condoleeza Rice, or Tim Scott. Candice Owens, sadly, isn't one of them.
First off, she did not deny that there were white racist in the country. Second, her words are meant to attract blacks who do not see themselves as victims of white people and oppression per se, but rather to Democrat policies to the GOP.

What she stated was that there's less racism than there has been in the past, the issues blacks face is mostly based on democrat policies, and that being a nationalist does not make you a racist.

Instead on focusing on what she accually said, you people want to be purposely dishonest by shifting the topic to her saying white racist do not exist, and that she somehow supports Hitler. Two things she both NEVER said or eluded to.
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Old 04-10-2019, 05:05 PM
 
Location: Avignon, France
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First off, she did not deny that there were white racist in the country. Second, her words are meant to attract blacks who do not see themselves as victims of white people and oppression per se, but rather to Democrat policies to the GOP.

What she stated was that there's less racism than there has been in the past, the issues blacks face is mostly based on democrat policies, and that being a nationalist does not make you a racist.
you nailed it!
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Old 04-10-2019, 05:14 PM
 
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"You know, he was a National Socialist, but if Hitler just wanted to make Germany great and have things run well, okay fine," she said. "The problem is he had dreams outside of Germany. He wanted to globalize. He wanted everybody to be German."

Candace Owens exact words.

Now you can spin this until you're dizzy, she still said "Okay, fine" about Hitler's plan to "make Germany great."
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Old 04-10-2019, 05:17 PM
 
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She also said Hitler was a "homicidal, psychotic maniac," and "I stand by my statements. And that is that.”

Anyone who thinks she got the best of this exchange is fooling themselves.
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Old 04-10-2019, 05:17 PM
 
Location: Denver CO
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yeah, she oh so destroyed Lieu by having her own words played back. Yawn.

No one but those already all the way on the right thinks she did anything but look like the hateful loser that she is.
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Old 04-10-2019, 05:17 PM
 
Location: Avignon, France
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"You know, he was a National Socialist, but if Hitler just wanted to make Germany great and have things run well, okay fine," she said. "The problem is he had dreams outside of Germany. He wanted to globalize. He wanted everybody to be German."

Candace Owens exact words.

Now you can spin this until you're dizzy, she still said "Okay, fine" about Hitler's plan to "make Germany great."
But she condemned his methods. Still quoting out of context I see.
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