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Old 04-10-2019, 05:52 PM
 
Location: Suburb of Chicago
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I don't know this woman and while I doubt she's a Democrat as she claimed - it's clear some of you are twisting the you know what out of what she said.

This is the hill you want to die on? Why?
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Old 04-10-2019, 05:53 PM
 
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Idiocy and ignorance transcends color and political orientation. Anyone - black, white, polka-dot, left, center, right or anarcho-royalist - who claims Hitler wasn't a nationalist is an idiot.

Candace Owens claimed Hitler wasn't a nationalist. You do the math.
She said he was a national socialist. Google national socialist, and the fist several results that pop up say

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Na·tion·al So·cial·ism
HISTORICAL
the political doctrine of the Nazi Party of Germany.
Wiki results and just about anywhere any place you look up the term "national socialist", Nazi and Hitler are in the same or accompanying sentances. That's because, just as Ms Owens stated, Hitler was a National Socialist!

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National Socialism most often refers to Nazism, the ideology of the Nazi Party (National Socialist German Workers' Party, NSDAP) which existed in Germany between 1920 and 1945 and ruled the country from 1933 to 1945. The term "National Socialism" was used by a number of unrelated groups before the Nazis, but since their rise to prominence it has become associated almost exclusively with their ideas.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nati...disambiguation)
If anyone needs to do "the math", it's you... You were right about one thing though, "idiocy and ignorance transcends color and political orientation. "
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Old 04-10-2019, 05:58 PM
 
Location: Avignon, France
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I didn't call her a shill either. So again your lies continue to be exposed. She stood up there and lied as a representative of the GOP. What do you call that? I called that a LIAR. Clearly, you choose to ignore the fact that I stated that the issue is not her being a party of the GOP, IT'S HER LIES, like your lies.

So again you make up things I post instead of addressing the fact that this woman lied over and over again? You don't dispute that she lied. But you make spin interpretation of what I said. Call it what you want but don't put words in my mouth. Ignorance and your lies are BS. Ignored

Semantics! Lol
Yup... don’t like the truth.. so just try and shut me down. Lol
Another ploy straight from the liberal play book. I am starting to feel embarrassed for you. Putting your fingers in your ears and humming la la once again.... you’re funny!
You have no clue who this woman is or what she stands for. She’s on the other side so in typical liberal fashion... rather than being objective .. you want to sling mud to see what sticks.

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Old 04-10-2019, 06:04 PM
 
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She said he was a national socialist...
Well, duh. That's not even worth debating and funnily enough, I never did. Now try to read my post:
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Anyone - black, white, polka-dot, left, center, right or anarcho-royalist - who claims Hitler wasn't a nationalist is an idiot.
What's Candace Owen's take?

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And what I responded is that I do not believe we should be characterizing Hitler as a nationalist...
That's from Fox News (you like Fox News, right?):

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/can...itler-comments

Do you follow, or do I need to type slower?
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Old 04-10-2019, 06:07 PM
 
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I didn't call her a shill either. So again your lies continue to be exposed. She stood up there and lied as a representative of the GOP. What do you call that? I called that a LIAR. Clearly, you choose to ignore the fact that I stated that the issue is not her being a party of the GOP, IT'S HER LIES, like your lies.

So again you make up things I post instead of addressing the fact that this woman lied over and over again? You don't dispute that she lied. But you make spin interpretation of what I said. Call it what you want but don't put words in my mouth. Ignorance and your lies are BS. Ignored
She lied about absolutely nothing. It's crap like this that got Trump elected and will get him reelected. We have eyes, ears, and the good sense that God gave us. You all being dishonest, spinning, and trying to convince us that the sky is purple when we can clearly see that it's blue is getting tiresome. Not only are you all being dishonest and trying to change the narrative about Ms. Owens and what she actually said, you all are now even crucifying and other Democrats and especially White men in the Democratic party...
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Old 04-10-2019, 06:15 PM
 
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Well, duh. That's not even worth debating and funnily enough, I never did. Now try to read my post:

What's Candace Owen's take?



That's from Fox News (you like Fox News, right?):

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/can...itler-comments

Do you follow, or do I need to type slower?
Maybe I'm the one who needs to type slower, and maybe you're the one who needs to work on your reading comprehension. Again, she stated and is 100% correct that Hilter should not be characterized as a "nationalist" BECAUSE he should be characterized as a "national socialist." This is what every documentation in reference to Hitler actually classifies Hitler as. Again, H i t l e r - h a s - h i s t o r i c a l l y - b e e n - "c h a r a c t e r i z e" - a s - a - "n a t i o n a l - s o c i a l i s t" - a n d - n o t - a s - a -n a t i o n a l i s t!
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Old 04-10-2019, 06:18 PM
 
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https://www.updateamerica.com/candac...qVD9NbPRBQJXSA

“As I said, he is assuming that black people will not go pursue the full two-hour clip. … He is trying to present as if I was launching a defense of Hitler in Germany.”
Owens argued she was asked whether she believed in “nationalism.”


“I do not believe that we should be characterizing Hitler as a nationalist,” she said. “He was a homicidal, psychopathic maniac that killed his own people. A nationalist would not kill his own people.”

I guess people on here will only listen to what they want to hear----just like those in the committee.
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Old 04-10-2019, 06:26 PM
 
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https://www.updateamerica.com/candac...qVD9NbPRBQJXSA

“As I said, he is assuming that black people will not go pursue the full two-hour clip. … He is trying to present as if I was launching a defense of Hitler in Germany.”
Owens argued she was asked whether she believed in “nationalism.”


“I do not believe that we should be characterizing Hitler as a nationalist,” she said. “He was a homicidal, psychopathic maniac that killed his own people. A nationalist would not kill his own people.”

I guess people on here will only listen to what they want to hear----just like those in the committee.
It's what Liberals do when they know they're dead wrong and can't argue facts. they take away the focus on from their losing arguments by accusing you of saying something you never said, and then force you to spend the rest of your time defending yourself.

Notice that we are no longer talking about how Ted Lueu was dishonest and how he was owned, we're instead defending Ms. Owens against things she clearly never said or implied.
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Old 04-10-2019, 06:32 PM
 
Location: Fredericktown,Ohio
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Well, the point is, Owens' words aren't by design to attract other African Americans into the GOP. She's really catering to white conservatives who can then point to her and say, "See? We're not racist."

What policies that other GOP politicians that are globalist or nationalist (insular) in nature doesn't really matter in terms of policy.

On another matter, there are plenty of black Republicans or black conservatives who don't make absurd statements denying white nationalism or run down their fellow black people, like Colin Powell, Condoleeza Rice, or Tim Scott. Candice Owens, sadly, isn't one of them.
What do you mean she is not trying to attract blacks into the GOP? You heard of her Blexit movement? right.

If she is trying to get blacks to leave the {D} party what other party would they join? I see her trying to sway blacks with a nationalist message to sway blacks into the {R} party. With the {D} party doing more pandering for immigrants then blacks they could feel left out.

There are blacks that would support nationalism but since the left is selling nationalism as white and racist it is a hard sell. Nationalism vs globalism has nothing to do with skin color.
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Old 04-10-2019, 06:41 PM
 
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Maybe I'm the one who needs to type slower, and maybe you're the one who needs to work on your reading comprehension. Again, she stated and is 100% correct that Hilter should not be characterized as a "nationalist" BECAUSE he should be characterized as a "national socialist." This is what every documentation in reference to Hitler actually classifies Hitler as. Again, H i t l e r - h a s - h i s t o r i c a l l y - b e e n - "c h a r a c t e r i z e" - a s - a - "n a t i o n a l - s o c i a l i s t" - a n d - n o t - a s - a -n a t i o n a l i s t!
In the real world she claimed that Hitler should not be classified as a nationalist "because he killed his own people", which is also kind of stupid. That fact aside, it is in fact possible for political movements to possess several characteristics. Communism, for instance, was internationalist. Nazism was nationalist. Fascism is also nationalist. No historian would deny that Hitler was nationalist, his entire ideology was based on it. You would look equally intelligent arguing he couldn't be totalitarian, because he was a national socialist. Ã’ Or that Stalin couldn't have been internationalist, because he was a communist.
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