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Old 04-20-2019, 08:27 AM
 
Location: Santa Monica
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Originally Posted by burdell View Post
Well, when you have a fully thought out, comprehensive plan to form a better society, let us know.

HINT: Continually whining about the 'state' IS NOT a comprehensive plan.
Translation: We can't end slavery. Who will pick the cotton?

 
Old 04-20-2019, 08:31 AM
 
Location: By the sea, by the sea, by the beautiful sea
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The private security firm has to answers to all of its customers not just the 1%. Taking all my stuff isn't going to bode well for future business.

If they took all the stuff of all their customers, WHY would they need to worry about "future business"?


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You can't leave statism. We've been over this. You are only as free as long as your interests don't conflict with the State's interests.

https://www.google.com/url?sa=i&sour...55856692070816

ONE example of a lone Japanese hermit makes you believe you just can't leave statism? You either give up easily or aren't as averse to statism as you pretend to be.
 
Old 04-20-2019, 08:33 AM
 
Location: By the sea, by the sea, by the beautiful sea
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Translation: We can't end slavery. Who will pick the cotton?

TRANSLATION: Your plan begins and ends with whining about statism while offering no better replacement.
 
Old 04-20-2019, 08:37 AM
 
Location: Santa Monica
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TRANSLATION: Your plan begins and ends with whining about statism while offering no better replacement.
Does statism morally and logically exist?
 
Old 04-20-2019, 08:41 AM
 
Location: Santa Monica
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If they took all the stuff of all their customers, WHY would they need to worry about "future business"?





ONE example of a lone Japanese hermit makes you believe you just can't leave statism? You either give up easily or aren't as averse to statism as you pretend to be.
They wouldn't have a monopoly on force or currency. You can't corner a free market by force.

On the Japanese guy:

Translation-It wasn't me so no big deal.
 
Old 04-20-2019, 11:43 AM
 
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TRANSLATION: Your plan begins and ends with whining about statism while offering no better replacement.
Freedom. The rest requires self study on your part.
 
Old 04-20-2019, 12:01 PM
 
Location: By the sea, by the sea, by the beautiful sea
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Does statism morally and logically exist?

You're the one continually whining about 'statism', how about we start with your definition of just WHAT it is?
 
Old 04-20-2019, 12:03 PM
 
Location: By the sea, by the sea, by the beautiful sea
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Freedom. The rest requires self study on your part.
I hear ya talkin' and complainin', how about telling us your comprehensive plan that's superior to what we have now?

To paraphrase a statement often attributed to Winston Churchill though he's likely noy th eoriginator:

What we have now is the worst system except for all the others.

Let's here some comprehensive solutions from those constantly bashing what we have now.

Last edited by burdell; 04-20-2019 at 12:23 PM..
 
Old 04-20-2019, 12:04 PM
 
Location: By the sea, by the sea, by the beautiful sea
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They wouldn't have a monopoly on force or currency. You can't corner a free market by force.

On the Japanese guy:

Translation-It wasn't me so no big deal.

You used that Japanese guy as an example of why you can't escape statism. As I said, you give up easy. Seems like the anti-statists aren't willing to expend much effort to avoid it.
 
Old 04-20-2019, 03:30 PM
 
Location: London
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You are consenting to "theft" by remaining a US citizen. Don't want to pay US taxes, you can become stateless.
Actually they won't let you renounce US citizenship unless you have another citizenship, or if they think you're doing it to stop having to pay taxes.
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