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Old 04-19-2019, 10:48 AM
 
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Immediately, perhaps. But if he lives to leave the OO, he will go to prison.

He doesn't need to go anywhere right now. Mueller's words versus Barr's attempted coverup are going to be on top of the news cycle until the election. The Dems will make political hay by quoting the report. Trump still has Cyrus Vance and Tish James to contend with before he is in the clear.
The "no collusion, hoax, total exoneration and witch hunt" spin of the president's talking points didn't pan out so now they want to ax Russian interference and Nixon. Most American's aren't gullible.

 
Old 04-19-2019, 10:50 AM
 
Location: deafened by howls of 'racism!!!'
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I just sent the whole article to you by Direct Message. I hope you enjoy it.
i did, tyvm

i'd like to highlight another key passage from it:

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For nearly four years, members of America’s ruling class, especially those in the media, the academy and government, have operated on one central, unquestioned assumption: orange man bad. This stifling orthodoxy led to a blind, counterfactual faith in the theory that Mr. Trump had somehow colluded with “the Russians” (never well defined) to win the election. Again, the specific charges were always amorphous — plastic enough to change as needed. That’s hardly surprising: That’s the way conspiracy theories always work. The Russian collusion hoax was in fact nothing more than a massively multiplayer coping mechanism for people who couldn’t accept the results of the 2016 election.
 
Old 04-19-2019, 10:54 AM
 
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2016 was quite different when they stole the DNC emails and had companies devoted to Trumps election, I don't have anything to compare. I never heard Trump thank the FBI and Mueller for exposing the Russian efforts, strange for a president.


So, this is the first time that Russia has meddled in our elections?
 
Old 04-19-2019, 10:57 AM
 
Location: Long Island
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So, this is the first time that Russia has meddled in our elections?
This was a different level.
 
Old 04-19-2019, 11:03 AM
 
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This was a different level.


Compared to what?
 
Old 04-19-2019, 11:03 AM
 
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So, this is the first time that Russia has meddled in our elections?
Are ok with Russia or any foreign government interfering with our elections?
 
Old 04-19-2019, 11:07 AM
 
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Are ok with Russia or any foreign government interfering with our elections?


Were you o.k. with them interfering prior to this election or just mad, now, because you lost?


And no, I'm not...but I also know they have been doing it for years prior to this election...




You did you know this?
 
Old 04-19-2019, 11:07 AM
 
Location: Los Angeles
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i did, tyvm

i'd like to highlight another key passage from it:
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WASHINGTON—Robert Mueller’s long-awaited report is unambiguously clear on this point: Russia interfered in the 2016 presidential election and sought to help Donald Trump win the White House.

That has been the unanimous view of the intelligence community for nearly 2½ years. But it is laid out in unprecedented detail across nearly 200 pages of the special counsel’s report, which also describes Russian efforts to forge ties with members of Trump’s campaign to further the Kremlin’s interference goals.
This guy..Christopher Buskir...is a populist hack living in a fantasy land



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The hilarity of an imagined "conservative renaissance" (Trump-style)
Christopher Buskirk, publisher of the ingratiating website American Greatness, writes in a Washington Post op-ed that "As President Trump continues to remake the Republican Party in his image, calls for last rites to be given to American conservatism are not just premature — they’re entirely wrong." In fact the president's detractors "are missing an intellectual and political reformation that is reshaping U.S. politics."
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Construction, according to the essayist, is already well underway. "American conservatism isn’t dead or dying. It’s thriving, but you’d have to look outside the Beltway and the legacy institutions to see it."

That's precisely what Harvard's Institute of Politics did. Its finding can be found in its "Spring 2018 Youth Poll," the 35th annual survey of those 18 to 29 years of age. Among the poll's findings is this: "25 percent approve of [Trump's] performance, 72 percent disapprove."

There you see the generational future of American politics, which is far from the "new political consensus" that Buskirk imagines — "At the heart of [whose] movement are the millions of people of good faith who back Trump and, more important, his agenda." Buskirk further describes the movement as a "conservative renaissance" that "is young but vigorous." Vigorous it may be, in a grumpy, rocking-chair kind of vigor. But a renaissance it ain't, and though relatively "young," it sure as hell isn't youthful.
 
Old 04-19-2019, 11:08 AM
 
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So, this is the first time that Russia has meddled in our elections?
You already know the answer to that, don't be disingenuous.

If you want to be an apologist for foreign meddling you are no better than a quisling yourself.
 
Old 04-19-2019, 11:10 AM
 
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Mueller didn't charge Trump — but his report is a brutal indictment

The first volume of the two-part, 448-page report details how Trump and his allies solicited, encouraged, accepted and benefited from the assistance provided by America's most storied foreign adversary as part of a multi-front assault on American democracy.

The other lays out comprehensive evidence that the president may have obstructed justice through what Mueller described as a "pattern of conduct" that included firing FBI Director Jim Comey, trying to remove Mueller, publicly praising and condemning witnesses, and seeking to limit the scope of the probe.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/polit...cid=spartandhp
Bill "Coverup General" Barr should be impeached for attempting to make light of this and attempting to pollute the court of public opinion. This is Congress's call to make not his. Congress do your job!
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