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Old 05-06-2019, 01:50 PM
 
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Your post presents a viewpoint that is horrific towards humans. They are now just a commodity, a means to an end, keep someone pregnant for someone else's purpose under the guise of adoption. It's the same side of the coin as early-trimester abortions.
Wow: So you believe that a good way to support humanity is to kill its most vulnerable? Without question?

Who are you, Thanos???

People are seriously sick. Sick. Sick. Sick.

This is probably the most disturbing post I've read about abortions. In all the CD posts. And that's saying something.

PS. Ultimate fail moving the goal post, though. You cannot claim abortions are needed because no one will adopt babies, and then in the next breath claim that abortion is needed to prevent adoptions.

Still seriously sick post. Shudder. I just can't even.
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Old 05-06-2019, 03:44 PM
 
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A great way to support humanity is to stop trying to control women's reproductive rights. And I, for one, would rather see fetuses being aborted than living children being abused/abandoned/neglected/ending up in the foster care system or with people who only want them for the money they are paid, all because their parents didn't really want them and were forced into parenthood.
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Old 05-06-2019, 03:46 PM
 
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Because it's a vile disgusting practice.

Liberals care about EVERYTHING except, unborn babies.

They care more about a wetland amphibian than they do the unborn.

It's disgusting and reprehensible.
Why don't you read about the GOP politicians who have had their mistresses get abortions? Yeah, it's just liberals who get abortions. LOL.
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Old 05-06-2019, 07:26 PM
 
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Wow: So you believe that a good way to support humanity is to kill its most vulnerable? Without question?

Who are you, Thanos???

People are seriously sick. Sick. Sick. Sick.

This is probably the most disturbing post I've read about abortions. In all the CD posts. And that's saying something.

PS. Ultimate fail moving the goal post, though. You cannot claim abortions are needed because no one will adopt babies, and then in the next breath claim that abortion is needed to prevent adoptions.

Still seriously sick post. Shudder. I just can't even.

Unsettling for sure that people could even think of humans as a commodity for their pro-life agenda by literally trying to change the definition of adoption. It seems a pro-life argument should be able to stand on it's own.
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Old 05-07-2019, 06:44 AM
 
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Unsettling for sure that people could even think of humans as a commodity for their pro-life agenda by literally trying to change the definition of adoption. It seems a pro-life argument should be able to stand on it's own.
It does, here's the one position clearly spelled out: Killing someone else because you feel like it is wrong.

It's the proabortioners that come up with 40 million different scenarios to try to rationalize killing. Just like you have done in your post.

"Well there aren't enough people willing to adopt, so abortion is the answer."
"Well we shouldn't have babies just so they can be adopted, abortion is the answer."

I wonder if proabortioners ever really hear the idiocy of their own "arguments."
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Old 05-07-2019, 08:35 AM
 
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"Pro abortioners" don't want to force women to have unwanted children, don't want unwanted children to lead miserable lives, don't want to doom families to economic misery by having children they can't afford. I don't understand how that is idiocy? Forced birthers, on the other hand, just seem to be concerned about fetuses. Never mind if they are going to be born unwanted, never mind if they are going to be abused after they are born, never mind if they are going to be born into bad economic situations and never have a chance. THAT, I don't understand. Let women and families make their own decisions re. procreation/family planning and stay out of their business.
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Old 05-07-2019, 08:47 AM
 
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Post #135: If killing someone is wrong that should be the full stop.

Being predatory with a pregnant woman to get that potential human for some perceived need, smears the beauty of adoption, does nothing for adoption reform.

Did you know some adults cannot get their birth certificates because they were once adopted? That's a civil rights issue. It also proves an underlying problem that we as a society are viewing humans from adoption differently.

The other obvious reason why adoption has nothing to do with unintended pregnancies, is well - fetuses can't be adopted and women don't stay pregnant like the one you mentioned who miscarried.

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Old 05-07-2019, 09:13 AM
 
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Post #135: If killing someone is wrong that should be the full stop.

Being predatory with a pregnant woman to get that potential human for some perceived need, smears the beauty of adoption, does nothing for adoption reform.

Did you know some adults cannot get their birth certificates because they were once adopted? That's a civil rights issue. It also proves an underlying problem that we as a society are viewing humans from adoption differently.

The other obvious reason why adoption has nothing to do with unintended pregnancies, is well - fetuses can't be adopted and women don't stay pregnant like the one you mentioned who miscarried.
It is. Killing someone because you feel like it? Is wrong.

But proabortioners don't like it when they hear that. So they dredge about 40 million reasons to champion the killing of babies.

You seem to be purposefully misunderstanding what I am saying. I can't be any more clear.

I'm guessing your problem seems to be with the proabortioners who USE adoption as a specific reason to kill babies. Go find a proabortioner and have this discussion.

Or go start a thread on adoption?

Not entirely clear what your point actually is.
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Old 05-07-2019, 09:50 AM
 
Location: Stillwater, Oklahoma
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People are seriously sick. Sick. Sick. Sick.
So is the Bible a sick, sick book because it did not ban abortion, or treat it as murder, even when it happened against a pregnant woman's will?
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Old 05-07-2019, 10:32 AM
 
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So is the Bible a sick, sick book because it did not ban abortion, or treat it as murder, even when it happened against a pregnant woman's will?
Off topic, but it also condones killing children:

Numbers 31:17 Now therefore kill every male among the little ones.

Samuel 15:3 slay both man and woman, infant and suckling.

2 Kings 8:12 dash their children, and rip up their women with child.

2 Kings 15:16 all the women therein that were with child he ripped up.

Isaiah 13:16 Their children also shall be dashed to pieces before their eyes; their houses shall be spoiled and their wives ravished.

Isaiah 13:18 They shall have no pity on the fruit of the womb; their eyes shall not spare children.

Lamentations 2:20 Shall the women eat their fruit, and children.

Ezekiel 9:6 Slay utterly old and young, both maids and little children.

Hosea 9:14 give them a miscarrying womb and dry breasts.

Hosea 13:16 their infants shall be dashed in pieces, and their women with child shall be ripped up.
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