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Old 08-09-2019, 07:45 AM
 
Location: OH->FL->NJ
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2 problems
1) 2nd Amendment is pretty clear. Love it or hate it.
2) Handguns only does not feed into the fantasies of a 5% to 10% fringe in this country hoping for armed civil insurrection.
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Old 08-09-2019, 07:52 AM
 
Location: bold new city of the south
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They are all guns. Does one scare you more? Guess which one kills more people a year.
Good point, hand guns are usually deadlier up close, long guns from a distance (greater accuracy). They are only tools. The real danger is the human.

Ted Kennedy used a car, Cain used a rock, that guy in California used a knife, those 9-11 buttholes used planes. Typically, between 30 and 50 people in the US die from dog bites each year. In 2010, the Office of Inspector General for Health and Human Services said that bad hospital care contributed to the deaths of 180,000 patients in Medicare alone in a given year.
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Old 08-09-2019, 07:55 AM
 
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Actually, I have in grocery stores in Phoenix. 3 in one store. One was a very attractive woman.
This doesn't surprise me. AZ is a strange place.
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Old 08-09-2019, 07:56 AM
 
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I have never seen a person open carrying a rifle, hand gun, or any firearm in public unless it was at a gun range, and I have lived all over the U.S. in states that allow open carry.

Open carry state here and I think I've only seen it 2, maybe 3 times. People don't do it that often.
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Old 08-09-2019, 07:57 AM
 
Location: Morrison, CO
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Open carry state here and I think I've only seen it 2, maybe 3 times. People don't do it that often.
Most people I know don't want the attention from either the well meaning that call the police at the sight of a gun, or the nefarious who want your gun, or will take you out first in a crime situation.
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Old 08-09-2019, 08:01 AM
 
Location: Honolulu/DMV Area/NYC
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Apart from the fact that the overwhelming majority of gun related homicides in this country are committed via handgun, does anyone honestly think that banning long guns would stop mass shootings? If so, I have a bridge to sell you. You'd simply see nut cases switch over to handguns and they'd inflict similar mass carnage. The rifle happens to be the weapon of choice for many, but banning the rifle won't stop mass shootings. It just won't.

Handguns are easy to reload and you can cause mass casualties via that weapon, too.
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Old 08-09-2019, 08:02 AM
 
Location: Here
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The only people carrying long guns in public places are those looking for a reaction and attention. Most avid gun nuts aren't going to bring unnecessary NEGATIVE attention to themselves or their fellow gun enthusiasts. Why rock the boat?
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Old 08-09-2019, 08:04 AM
 
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Please. You really think the gun toting populace could be effective against our current military? That ship has sailed into history.
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Old 08-09-2019, 08:06 AM
 
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You do know, many handguns can be converted to fully automatic fire? Its illegal, but Im not sure that has stopped anyone.
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Old 08-09-2019, 08:07 AM
 
Location: Honolulu/DMV Area/NYC
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2 problems
1) 2nd Amendment is pretty clear. Love it or hate it.
2) Handguns only does not feed into the fantasies of a 5% to 10% fringe in this country hoping for armed civil insurrection.
So, the 2nd Amendment is not as clear as you or others make it out to be. I'm a huge supporter of the 2nd Amendment and want it to be more evenly implemented throughout the country, to include NYC and other resistant areas. But the question becomes what does "infringe" mean? Do you infringe on the right if you impose any and all kinds of gun control? Certainly not, as there was gun control at the time of the Amendment's adoption that the framers didn't think they were doing away with by passing the Amendment. For instance, most private citizens couldn't own cannons (also arms) at the time of the amendment. Also, at the founding, all but one state required citizens to register their firearms, among other restrictions. Source: Five types of gun laws the Founding Fathers loved

Fundamentally, "infringe" simply means to contravene, to impose so as to limit or undermine something, to encroach on something, etc. Those who take infringe to mean that no gun control can pass misread both the Amendment and the historical context in which the Amendment was adopted.
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