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Old Today, 07:46 PM
 
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European Capitalism demands more local investment because of decades of pressure from the evil socialist..this investment in education and healthcare works in the long run..unlike our quarterly profits system
Ah, finally - one of the posts that gets to the crux of the matter..

It's so interesting that many in this country say that it has failed....and yet, when presented with the potential solutions, they rant and rave and talk about evil democrats in some place I've never been to.

That is certainly a sign of low educational attainment....and perhaps poor healthcare.
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Old Today, 07:58 PM
 
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So, making comparisons of entire states that have approx. the same populations.....is not good?
How about comparing the capital of Denmark, Copenhagen to Baltimore. They are also the same size.

Opps you don't want to go there.

We know what this is really about. Big fail on your part. But hey, prove me wrong. Why don't you compare Copenhagen to Baltimore?



<crickets>
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Old Today, 08:12 PM
 
Location: New York NY
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Yes.


One cannot use the "on the water" excuse as much in modern times....as the success of Silicon Valley or even Austin have nothing to do with the water (Apple, Oracle, Google, etc. don't have port facilities nor are they on the water).

Salt Lake City seems fruitful - and that's not on the water either.

Also, none of those places have had the 100's of billions or trillions of dollars worth of resources - timber, coal and other minerals. Many of them don't have the hydroelectric and other resources...nor the rainfall for more possibilities.

Certainly water locations created much of the modern world...but, then again, there is Germany and Russia which have vast industrial enterprises that are on rivers or rail lines. So I'd say to scratch the "water" reasoning.
I don't deny that wealthy cities HAVE to be by water. I said as much that there were exceptions: San Jose and Silicon Valley (couple of techies happened to go to school in Palo Alto and the rest in history) or the cities of landlocked Switzerland in Europe (politically neutral and big banking centers). But they're fewer of them. And Austin is a pip-squeak compared to Houston, which is connected to the Gulf. Florida certainly has water--but major ports? And you've mentioned Florida too. Jacksonville and Miami are tiny compared to other ports, while cities like Orlando and Vegas again grew from unique historical circumstances--gambling and tourism. I don't know SLC at all, so I cannot comment on that one.

I will concede, however, that in the modern era, wealth is now associated with transportation hubs beside those for ships. Atlanta and Denver are two U.S. cities like that, and there are probably several in Europe. There are definitely other reasons why Appalachian and Scandanavian regions are so different (culture, government, education, etc.). But being a transport center makes it a lot likelier that an area will do better than one without ports, rail, or air hubs. And like I say Kent. and W. Vir. don't really have any of that -- and neither do most poor regions around the world. That is not a coincidence.
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Old Today, 08:34 PM
 
Location: Kansas City, MISSOURI
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How about comparing the capital of Denmark, Copenhagen to Baltimore. They are also the same size.

Opps you don't want to go there.

We know what this is really about. Big fail on your part. But hey, prove me wrong. Why don't you compare Copenhagen to Baltimore?

<crickets>
Copenhagen is one of the most liberal cities in the world. Why don't you tell us how horrible a city it is?

Oops!

BTW Boston is also about the same size as Copenhagen. And yes, they would indeed compare favorably. Convenient you picked the worst city you could think of, and it's not even in KY or WV (which is the actual topic here).
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Old Today, 08:39 PM
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Uh.. no. Crime in WV is really high.

I lived there for 20years. Itís a crap hole of meth, crime, alcoholism and low edecucation.

Itís Trump Country.
And 15% of West Virginia is on Disability with Kentucky right behind them. Those geniuses will shout about the evils of socialism while lining up for their free money. The difference is in Denmark, that socialist money is used for education. In West Virginia and Kentucky, it's used for drugs and alcohol.
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Old Today, 08:43 PM
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Location: Lost in Montana *recalculating*...
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And 15% of West Virginia is on Disability with Kentucky right behind them. Those geniuses will shout about the evils of socialism while lining up for their free money. The difference is in Denmark, that socialist money is used for education. In West Virginia and Kentucky, it's used for drugs and alcohol.
Yes. Yes it is.

As a banker I saw it all...the..time...

Some of the most ignorant people I have ever met.
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Old Today, 08:58 PM
 
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Well one thing is for certain, if the white people in WV and KY were to become more prosperous and upbeat, it wouldn't stay so white for long. Everyone would be coming in imposing upon them and ruin in it with diversity and all the unpleasantry that comes with it. Maybe they're better off the way it is and that's why they stay put and don't change.
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Old Today, 09:09 PM
 
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Hmm another C_D "I want to point out how bad other Americans are" thread. No different than anyone who is an R that does it. OP you are no different than the ones you complain about. All 5th grade mentality.
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Old Today, 09:18 PM
 
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So the "white people of WV and KY" who are admittedly poor and living off of the generosity of the U.S. taxpayer, were to somehow overcome their failure and become prosperous, diversity is what would ruin for them? They are already failing. They are the definition of failure and it is as white as can be there. Unbelievable.
Let me put it another way. If most of the white people of KY/WV were in a liberal and diverse state, they would be failing worse in many or most cases. Do you think these big, diverse supposedly successful liberal locales don't have people living a life of failure only made worse for them by diversity and liberalism?
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Old Today, 09:26 PM
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Let me put it another way. If most of the white people of KY/WV were in a liberal and diverse state, they would be failing worse in many or most cases. Do you think these big, diverse supposedly successful liberal locales don't have people living a life of failure only made worse for them by diversity and liberalism?
Would they? Or would there be surrounded by more available jobs? Perhaps have gone to school? I don't think diversity has anything to do with it whatsoever. They live in very white areas now and things aren't so great. What does diversity have to do with it?
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