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They need to have the investigation first. GOPers would be screaming bloody murder if they voted without investigating first, this is just a convenient excuse but it's not like any of you would be ok with it if they had voted either. The Constitution doesn't say they have to vote but it does say the House has the authority to impeach - Trump is the one trying to crap on the Constitution by claiming he has a right to decline to participate? No, he doesn't, he wasn't elected King.
Yet every single time there has been an official impeachment inquiry of a president there has been a vote authorizing it. If they didn't really need one, why has it literally always happened?
Every single time we've had a President, they were not a Twitter troll. If Trump can be President and a Twitter troll, why has it literally never happened before?
See how that works? Just because something has been some way for some period of time, that doesn't mean that it's required to stay that way, especially when there's no law about it.
Every single time we've had a President, they were not a Twitter troll. If Trump can be President and a Twitter troll, why has it literally never happened before?
See how that works? Just because something has been some way for some period of time, that doesn't mean that it's required to stay that way, especially when there's no law about it.
Ah, so it's acceptable to change the process to one that is inherently less fair and open than ever before because orange man bad? Is that your position on it?
Simply because they don't have to. It would require extra steps and there is no law that says they have to.
I agree. But that said - I wish they would just vote and get it over with. Nancy's done counting; if there are a handful in red states that wish to vote no - let them.
But I am MORE than ready to impeach. That said, Trump's cover up and refusal to cooperate with a co-equal branch of goverment just adds to the articles of impeachment that can be brought.
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Originally Posted by bobbythegreat
Yet every single time there has been an official impeachment inquiry of a president there has been a vote authorizing it. If they didn't really need one, why has it literally always happened?
Yet there is NOTHING in the constitution that requires it. Huh.
You just don't want to hold a crook responsible for his actions.
You let Hillary get away with Benghazi, Uranium One, rigging the primaries and deleting 30k emails that she was supposed to hand over to the state department.
Yet there is NOTHING in the constitution that requires it. Huh.
Yet without it they lack the legitimacy to compel cooperation....which is why that kind of vote has literally always happened when it comes to authorizing official impeachment inquires of the president.
Ah, so it's acceptable to change the process to one that is inherently less fair and open than ever before because orange man bad? Is that your position on it?
Fair enough.
Trump doesn't follow the laws; Trump doesn't follow the rules and precedents of our institutions; he sure as hell doesn't know what the constitution says - why should anyone else play by his rules?
It's not up to ANYONE but Congress as to how to hold their hearings; when to vote, etc.
When Nixon was impeached, an inquiry vote was taken because the House committees did not have subpoena power. The vote was needed to grant those powers. Several years ago, when the Republicans held the majority in the House, they voted a rule change that gave the majority permanent standing subpoena power. Therefore no inquiry vote is needed today because it would be redundant, the committee majority already has all the subpoena power they need.
Nothing in the Constitution requires a full House vote to initiate an impeachment inquiry.
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