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Old 10-08-2019, 09:36 PM
 
Location: Texas
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Originally Posted by Oakformonday View Post
Hold your horses. In due time. Do you think the Senate Republicans have finally seen the light or is it going to be business as usual?
Put an actual case together showing he broke a law, I see a lot of comments saying he did, but they are weak at best.
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Old 10-08-2019, 10:15 PM
 
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When Nixon was impeached, an inquiry vote was taken because the House committees did not have subpoena power. The vote was needed to grant those powers. Several years ago, when the Republicans held the majority in the House, they voted a rule change that gave the majority permanent standing subpoena power. Therefore no inquiry vote is needed today because it would be redundant, the committee majority already has all the subpoena power they need.

Nothing in the Constitution requires a full House vote to initiate an impeachment inquiry.
Read this post again, those of you who can't understand why the House can investigate without a vote first. Note that the rule change was passed by Republicans.
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Old 10-08-2019, 10:24 PM
 
Location: Southwest Washington State
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Because investigations don't have to put up for a vote.

Why not ask the same about all the Wars and everything else?

Actual Impeachment probably needs a vote. But not investigations. Yeah, I know, you want to discredit it. But it won't work......because there is a there there and everyone knows it. You do too. You just don't want to hold a crook responsible for his actions.
As I understand this, the hearings are like a grand jury that gathers evidence to decide if a charge will be filed. In this case, hearings will likely lead to impeachment, because we all know the things Trump has done. I expect him to be charged with multiple crimes. But they won't send articles of impeachment to the senate with out supporting evidence. They are gathering evidence now.

Once the articles are voted on, they will be sent to the Senate, if the House votes to impeach.

By the way, no one tries to block testimony that exonerates him. Just remember this when Trump tries to block people in his administration from testifying. Nixon claimed "executive privilege" to no avail during the Watergate investigation.
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Old 10-08-2019, 10:27 PM
 
Location: Home is Where You Park It
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Why aren't they voting on this?
Um, there's a process.

There will be a vote. The process is just not there yet.

"The process takes on the form of a trial, but the trial takes place in the House of Representatives and the Senate, not the courts. The result is a blend of law and partisan politics in an often months-long process."

https://www.usnews.com/news/national...-get-impeached
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Old 10-08-2019, 10:55 PM
 
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Cowardice.
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Old 10-09-2019, 02:04 AM
 
Location: Various
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A vote would force him to cooperate, if he didn't then democrats would legitimately have their first impeachable offense.
Exactly. The Dems want to be able to say Trump is obstructing, but refuse to compel him. All a game to keep it going for longer. It will end the same way as Russia, with egg on the Dem faces.
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Old 10-09-2019, 03:43 AM
 
Location: South Carolina - The Palmetto State
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You got that right sam. The morons have nothing to go on.
Yep. Schiff has been boasting for ALMOST 3 YEARS that he has "documented proof" on the Orange Man Bad tour.

So...that's plenty of time to have subpoenas ready to go....JUST DO IT if ya got the goods!
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Old 10-09-2019, 03:57 AM
 
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To hell with fact finding, due process, justice, due diligence, truth etc. Just lock him up. Is that what you want?

Just because republicans ignore truth doesn't mean democrats have to.
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Old 10-09-2019, 06:46 AM
 
Location: Long Island
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Well, for starters, Adam Schiff, his staff, and anyone that had contact with this "whistleblower".
Already been documented that a staff member did in fact speak to the whistle blower and advised him to get a lawyer, go ahead and subpoena the staff member. A better questions would be what Trump spoke to Sondland about the day after the threat to withhold funds.
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Old 10-09-2019, 06:48 AM
 
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Simply because they don't have to. It would require extra steps and there is no law that says they have to.
Are you freakin kidding me? That is going to be the best non answer answer in this thread.
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