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Unless there's an actual recording of the call, where is that going to come from?
One of Shiff 's "whistle blowers"?
An ellipses denotes something being purposely omitted or removed. There are ellipses in the partial transcript that was released. Let's see the unredacted one and what was omitted. Why would you be against that if you are so certain Trump did nothing wrong?
Because if they voted on it, they would have to make it a more fair and open process and there's no way Pelosi wants that. Without a vote she can continue the unofficial official inquiry that she can have complete control over.
Hmm. I keep thinking about Merrick Garland. These Republicans certainly are sticklers for process, aren’t they?
Why won't they put impeachment to a vote?
This thread's original post is distributing the latest talking point, I note; as pathetic and bogus as it is.
It’s one of Republicans’ main talking points to rebut impeachment: House Democrats’ inquiry isn’t legitimate because the members didn’t vote to start one. And now it’s what President Trump is resting his decision on for not cooperating with the inquiry.
There are a couple of issues with that argument. There is no rule that the full House has to vote to start an impeachment inquiry. And a vote wouldn’t change anything. Nearly all House Democrats support an impeachment inquiry, so if they did take a vote, presumably they would all vote to keep it going.
Republicans surely know a vote won’t stop Democrats’ impeachment inquiry. So why are they pushing for it anyway? It's not as if the Trump administration would cooperate if they obtained a vote. We all know Trump, in his defiance, believes he is immune to investigation, immune to indictment and immune to impeachment. Perhaps he and his lawyers do not understand our Constitution and the 3 co-equal branches of government? Perhaps conning his base is the rationale?
IMO Trump actually believes he is invulnerable. His White House and he himself thinking they are invulnerable will be his undoing. In all tragedies that is the beginning of the downfall, just like the Greeks. He'll probably take all his Republican co-conspirators with him. Tsk Tsk.
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Because after almost three years, the Dems still don't have a thing.
It would have behooved the Democrat Party to have put all this silliness aside early on, and have worked to improve this country and not screw up everything they have accomplished, instead of tearing it apart and looking like absolute petty jealous fools.
I hate to say this, but the Democrat party is making Rush Limbaugh sound like a astute, insightful, political genius.
Ah, so it's acceptable to change the process to one that is inherently less fair and open than ever before because orange man bad? Is that your position on it?
Fair enough.
Yes. Every impeachment so far has differed in the way it was done. The basics have always been the same, but the way the basics were covered differs in all of the 3 impeachments we have had.
The Constitution says nothing about the procedure to be used, so apparently, the founding fathers left it up to the members of the House to work the details out among themselves.
The impeachment trial that is the Senate's responsibility has more constitutional instructions on how it is to be held.
Its an inquiry to see if their is a case of impeachment. No need to vote on that.
The democrats aren't fooling anyone.
If the dems think they can conduct an impeachment investigation without granting the Republicans equal rights in the process, like every other impeachment, they are going to have an increasingly difficult time convincing the public that this is legitimate.
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