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Old 05-10-2022, 10:34 PM
 
Location: Native of Any Beach/FL
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Who are you to decide who makes it and who doesn't and who dies and who lives? You only bring the selective negative and ignore the millions who had a chance and lives were cut short because they made it super easy to avoid responsibility in the "it's all about me" culture. You don't know but you hope that their lives would have been a waste to make excuses.
How exactly does this affect you ? The me, myself n I culture is those who want to impose their will on others. Especially men wanting women to submit.

 
Old 05-10-2022, 10:46 PM
 
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How exactly does this affect you ? The me, myself n I culture is those who want to impose their will on others. Especially men wanting women to submit.
Funny, the abortion at will until the baby is halfway out of the birth canal crowd can't even articulate what a man or woman is.

Also, when does the unborn baby constitute a human? Is the mother not imposing HER will on others (the baby or babies) by aborting him/her/them?

And if the unborn baby is indeed NOT a human until the baby exits the womb, then we need to abolish fetal homicide laws. It's legally impossible to commit homicide against an organism that is not a human.

And good news for them, they'll be able to abort their babies until the baby turns 97 in New York or California.
 
Old 05-10-2022, 10:56 PM
 
Location: Honolulu, HI
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How exactly does this affect you ? The me, myself n I culture is those who want to impose their will on others. Especially men wanting women to submit.
I don’t see liberals whining about men choosing to be trans women, why all the faux outrage now?

Maybe if the left actually got mad over men becoming women, we could take their outrage over men legislating abortion a bit more seriously.
 
Old 05-11-2022, 12:01 AM
 
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How exactly does this affect you ? The me, myself n I culture is those who want to impose their will on others. Especially men wanting women to submit.
Let's make all killings legal. How does this affect you if you are not the one being killed?

Isn't killing millions of babies on demand imposing their will on others? Funny, millions of women that are pro life and want to minimize the abortions, they also want women to submit to them? women on women right?
 
Old 05-11-2022, 12:17 AM
 
Location: Auckland, New Zealand
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After babies are born they are the responsibility of the parents not pro-lifers or anyone else. There is no conflict in not wanting the unborn to be killed and not being responsible for their upkeep afterwards. This is about death nothing more and nothing less!

Science says once conception occurs it's a human life.
Science says no such thing. The majority of biologists consider that life begins at conception, not that a human being is formed at conception. It is the beginning of a life and has to go through numerous stages before it becomes a fully formed human being. It has been agreed upon that at the end of the first trimester, the embryo will be considered a viable human being. Once it reaches third term, it is a fetus which is an unborn child. An unborn human being. This is why twelve weeks is often the legal cut-off for abortions.

Look, no-one likes the idea of an abortion. Terminating an early pregnancy is more acceptable to most folks but even then, most folks don't like the idea of terminating a pregnancy. (I cannot speak for radical left though).

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It worked out for you. You Mother didn't denied you life. Here you are deciding the fate of millions and playing God with endless excuses in how easy ending life should be.
Chas is not deciding the fate of anyone, let alone that of millions. Chas is not telling anyone to have babies or to get pregnant. (They are doing that on their own.)
 
Old 05-11-2022, 12:18 AM
 
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Define caring for the woman and child? if its jumping on the big government welfare bandwagon and ignore bad habits and bad actions and bad parenting then count me out.


I'm old school discipline of tough love and nothing it's free. Liberals with the same broken record that if you don't bow down to the socialism lifestyle then you don't care about the woman or child. A false myth.


If you call trying for the child not to be butchered and keep them alive until We work it out "dictating" , what do you call ending a life?
Sooo...just how much control of the individual do you wish the government to have? I mean sure, forced pregnancies are the start, but it sound like you want to define diet, drinking, etc. What else? What level of control of people is acceptable to you?
 
Old 05-11-2022, 06:10 AM
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Funny, the abortion at will until the baby is halfway out of the birth canal crowd can't even articulate what a man or woman is.

Also, when does the unborn baby constitute a human? Is the mother not imposing HER will on others (the baby or babies) by aborting him/her/them?

And if the unborn baby is indeed NOT a human until the baby exits the womb, then we need to abolish fetal homicide laws. It's legally impossible to commit homicide against an organism that is not a human.

And good news for them, they'll be able to abort their babies until the baby turns 97 in New York or California.
Yes we can. You are making up false arguments, because you don't have a real argument to pose.

A fertilized egg isn't a human being, I'll start there. An acorn isn't an oak tree.
 
Old 05-11-2022, 06:14 AM
 
Location: Honolulu, HI
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Let's make all killings legal. How does this affect you if you are not the one being killed?
Well stated.
 
Old 05-11-2022, 06:16 AM
 
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Yes we can. You are making up false arguments, because you don't have a real argument to pose.

A fertilized egg isn't a human being, I'll start there. An acorn isn't an oak tree.
False. You libs are the ones claiming that there is no distinction between a man and a woman.
 
Old 05-11-2022, 06:32 AM
 
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I'm assuming that one of the main reasons women have abortions is for financial reasons. They simply can't afford to have a child or have another child. If abortions were to be banned with the exception of rape and sever medical reasons would we see an increase in child poverty if women no longer have the option for abortions outside of those two reasons? Would this cause a need to expand the welfare state to help support all of these children living with struggling parents?
"Poverty", is up to the individual!

MANY who grew up in poverty got out of it.

"If abortions were to be banned with the exception of rape and sever medical reasons would we see an increase in child poverty"

PEOPLE make the CHOICE to have sex.

They can get FREE birth control pills. The women can tell the man, use a condemn, or NO sex. If they CAN'T stop, medical procedures should be done on them to PREVENT getting pregnant.
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