In states that will ban abortions... (Congress, 2015, laws, murder)

[JerZ]

Originally Posted by erieguy

I support them to be armed and shoot rapists…but then there’s that whole Dem gun banning thing.

Do you have any answers to the actual questions I asked?

[erieguy]

Originally Posted by kitty61

^^^^^^^EXACTLY ^^^^^^

It comes down to women being "blamed for" getting pregnant. "She should have kept her knees together". "She shouldn't be parading around in a short skirt"."She was asking it for it."

Guys, be part of the solution and get vasectomies instead of relying on women to be on birth control. Those methods are not 100% effective, especially the condom. The condom has the worst record. When women get a tubal ligation it is permanent but a vasectomy for men is fully 100%reversible. There's no good reason not to get one.

Funny how you want men to be the only responsible party, and vasectomies aren’t 100% reversible…and tubal ligation is also reversible but not 100% same as vasectomies. If men refuse to use birth control then women can simply say no. Both parties are responsible.

[RMESMH]

Originally Posted by jdaelectro

If Jesus is God, then it is

Yes....If.

You just demonstrated my point.

It's objective morality to you and those who share your beliefs.

[Petunia 100]

Originally Posted by Ellis Bell

Thou shalt not kill? Of course that was said years BC.

The only mention of abortion in the Bible is when God commanded it. A man who suspected his pregnant wife of adultery was to bring her before the priest where she would be forced to drink an abortifacient.

[Petunia 100]

Originally Posted by jdaelectro

Thanks, it's always funny when people claim to know what God says about these things, having never even read His word

It sure is.

[erieguy]

Originally Posted by JerZ

Do you have any answers to the actual questions I asked?

I provided answers. You obviously didn’t like them.

[JerZ]

Originally Posted by erieguy

Funny how you want men to be the only responsible party, and vasectomies aren’t 100% reversible…and tubal ligation is also reversible but not 100% same as vasectomies. If men refuse to use birth control then women can simply say no. Both parties are responsible.

So then this relates to my question #3: will states be able to demand a man give DNA for paternity testing?

[Petunia 100]

Originally Posted by erieguy

Birth control by both parties is an option. Lack of responsibility isn’t an excuse.

I certainly have no argument with birth control. Electing to have an abortion is one way to take responsibility.

[staystill]

NJ Governor said they can come to NJ to get abortions.

[erieguy]

Originally Posted by Petunia 100

I certainly have no argument with birth control. Electing to have an abortion is one way to take responsibility.

Both parties using birth control is being responsible, hence sOOO many unwanted pregnancies…but folks wanting an abortion have the option to go to another state to do so.