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Old 06-24-2022, 11:55 PM
 
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I did answer your question, you just don't like my answer.

I'll try to provide an answer that is more in your wheelhouse.

I believe that believing that equating what Jesus says to be objective morality is subjective. It's a belief/your belief. It isn't a fact.

It's a philosophical question.
Is that a Yes or a No to the question: Is morality subjective?

 
Old 06-24-2022, 11:55 PM
 
Location: California side of the Sierras
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optimism is not your forte --- too much doom and gloom.
People who are hungry need food, not optimism.
 
Old 06-24-2022, 11:56 PM
 
Location: Downtown Cranberry Twp.
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optimism is not your forte --- too much doom and gloom.
Bingo…neither is promoting taking responsibility to begin with.
 
Old 06-24-2022, 11:59 PM
 
Location: North Pacific
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optimism is not your forte --- too much doom and gloom.
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People who are hungry need food, not optimism.
And people who are dead need neither --- is that the solution? Trust I'm all for this planet returning to a time before man. I"m sure it was peaceful. However, we are here and I fail to see where killing each other off is a productive use of our time.
 
Old 06-25-2022, 12:09 AM
 
Location: Downtown Cranberry Twp.
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Can't rep you again ... for the other one a few pages back.

For everything else including guns we're to act responsible, I guess sex gets a pass.
I was taught responsibility at a very young age and paid attention to the consequences of not paying attention to it. I also paid attention in health class and understood the consequences of unprotected sex. It’s so easy to take precautions to not put oneself in an unwanted situation. It’s quite amazing how folks so fight and ignore taking responsibility and precautions of unwanted pregnancy, especially those that insist only the man should be responsible when women are the only ones that can get pregnant
 
Old 06-25-2022, 12:09 AM
 
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As far as Texas, their law has been in effect for almost a year - has it caused any issues yet?
Yes. https://www.khou.com/article/news/lo...0-68f2630be98a

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Also - what about stiffer penalties, against mothers if they don't tell the father and leave him out of the decision - does he not get any say? Or rape charges if the guy is underage and the girl is not - why do you think it only goes one way?

I didn't say there shouldn't be penalties if the woman withholds that information. Does he get any say - I don't know. I guess that would have to be handled state by state also.

Rape charges: it does not only work one way. But the woman already has to have physical repercussions, so I would think repercussions would be forced on the man, too. It does take two.

Thank you for attempting to answer the questions. It is appreciated.
 
Old 06-25-2022, 12:13 AM
 
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I did answer it. You just didn’t like the answer, and any woman that wants to have an abortion can go to a state that has legal abortion. Nobody’s stopping them.
No, you didn't.

Why not ?

What specifically is moral to you may be a yes or no question to you, but not to others who don't share your beliefs.

Whether you think a woman should be forced to birth her rapist's baby isn't that type of question. It isn't philosophical. Each step is a digital/one way or another reality. A woman has either been raped, or she hasn't. Subsequently, she's either pregnant from that, or she isn't. If she is, she either decides she wants to carry the result of the rape fetus to term, or she decides she wants to abort. If she decides to abort, she's either allowed to, or she isn't. Your initial deflection indicates that you would support forcing the woman to carry her rapist's fetus to term and give birth.
 
Old 06-25-2022, 12:13 AM
 
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I'd love to hear from anyone who wants to reply to the topic. This is about children already born. Other off-topic ventures have been covered many times in other threads. Please see post #1 for my questions. Thanks!
 
Old 06-25-2022, 12:16 AM
 
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Is it the tiny little person's fault? Adoption is always a solution to an unwanted pregnancy. I was given up. I'm glad she didn't choose the coat hanger.
If the woman has been raped, the pregnancy isn't her fault.
 
Old 06-25-2022, 12:19 AM
 
Location: Downtown Cranberry Twp.
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No, you didn't.

Why not ?

What specifically is moral to you may be a yes or no question to you, but not to others who don't share your beliefs.

Whether you think a woman should be forced to birth her rapist's baby isn't that type of question. It isn't philosophical. Each step is a digital/one way or another reality. A woman has either been raped, or she hasn't. Subsequently, she's either pregnant from that, or she isn't. If she is, she either decides she wants to carry the result of the rape fetus to term, or she decides she wants to abort. If she decides to abort, she's either allowed to, or she isn't. Your initial deflection indicates that you would support forcing the woman to carry her rapist's fetus to term and give birth.
Sure I did…and She’s allowed to abort or not. Plenty of states where abortion will be legal. Also a great case for the ability to carry firearms.
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