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Old 08-14-2022, 10:31 AM
 
Location: East Coast of the United States
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Originally Posted by Haksel257 View Post
The stock market is another ball game, with a huge amount of money simply parked in speculation.
I believe everybody should have money invested in the stock market from the time they are born.

That is where a rising tide lifts all boats in real time.

Why doesn’t every parent in America do that for their children?
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Old 08-14-2022, 10:59 AM
 
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The benefits of throwing the elite/rich a bone in the hopes that that will cause a domino effect of the less fortunate benefitting hasn't exactly worked. The Rich continue to hoard and the broke continue to stay broke. If this idea works than why does the income gap continue to widened?
This is not new. I was saying this way back in the 1980s with Ronald Reagan. I recall telling my spouse then that in reality "trickle down" economics means "trickled on" if you get my drift.
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Old 08-14-2022, 11:00 AM
 
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The original name was "horses and sparrows" theory. If you feed your horses well, the sparrows get fatter. Just - don't think too much over what the sparrows have to actually eat.
Too funny....
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Old 08-14-2022, 11:05 AM
 
Location: Just over the horizon
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GOP made up the term trickle down.

If the rich have more than everyone else would get more.. which was a lie.

CEO pay rose 1,500% (probably more) while pay checks have failed to rise with inflation.

and the sad part is the common conservative still defends this inequality because they think one day they will be part of the 1%.



Tell us, what exactly is that you think should "trickle down"?

And where did you form that opinion?
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Old 08-14-2022, 11:08 AM
 
Location: The High Desert
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This is not new. I was saying this way back in the 1980s with Ronald Reagan. I recall telling my spouse then that in reality "trickle down" economics means "trickled on" if you get my drift.
Anyone with half a brain knew at the time that it was simply a scheme to get more wealth into the hands of the rich. And we know now that that is exactly what it did. The only trickle was that they paid in taxes after amassing their fortunes. The middle class carried the country on their backs until they can't do it anymore. But they blame the Democrats for their woes and still think Reagan was some sort of hero.
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Old 08-14-2022, 11:19 AM
 
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Anyone with half a brain knew at the time that it was simply a scheme to get more wealth into the hands of the rich. And we know now that that is exactly what it did. The only trickle was that they paid in taxes after amassing their fortunes. The middle class carried the country on their backs until they can't do it anymore. But they blame the Democrats for their woes and still think Reagan was some sort of hero.
Yeah, someone with half brain may think that. Not someone with a proper brain though.
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Old 08-14-2022, 11:28 AM
 
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Anyone with half a brain knew at the time that it was simply a scheme to get more wealth into the hands of the rich. And we know now that that is exactly what it did. The only trickle was that they paid in taxes after amassing their fortunes. The middle class carried the country on their backs until they can't do it anymore. But they blame the Democrats for their woes and still think Reagan was some sort of hero.
I could not agree more. I argued this to the nines with my spouse. It took a few years, but eventually by the time Al Gore ran for president, my spouse realised I had been correct.
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Old 08-14-2022, 11:56 AM
 
Location: Retired in VT; previously MD & NJ
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I've always interpreted the "trickle-down" phrase as the idea that tax breaks and corporate welfare for the extremely wealthy always benefit the bottom. Which is simply untrue and simplified. Of course it trickles down when you look at a single job. But over time, the wealth is wicked up and concentrated. Keeping with the water analogy, though there may be many eddy currents going in reverse, the flow of the river remains one direction.
Yes
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Old 08-14-2022, 12:11 PM
 
Location: Retired in VT; previously MD & NJ
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Indeed.

Humans are economic units to exploit. Humans are resources, no different than any other resource like coal, oil, timber, grain, corn, etc.

People need to stop acting like they deserve special treatment just because they are human.
I can remember when that changed. "Personnel Departments" which were focused on the people who worked for the company were renamed "Human Resources" and then just became another line item in the budget. That is when companies stopped thinking about fairness that might keep their workers engaged and productive and intent on making money for the company. I think that is also around the time when employee loyalty dissolved and one could no longer view a job at a given company as a career. Job hopping became the only way to get a raise for many. Companies for some reason didn't care that they always had training expenses for new employees, as long as the HR line item in the budget didn't go too high.
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Old 08-14-2022, 12:14 PM
 
Location: Retired in VT; previously MD & NJ
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I've always interpreted the "trickle-down" phrase as the idea that tax breaks and corporate welfare for the extremely wealthy always benefit the bottom. Which is simply untrue and simplified. Of course it trickles down when you look at a single job. But over time, the wealth is wicked up and concentrated. Keeping with the water analogy, though there may be many eddy currents going in reverse, the flow of the river remains one direction.
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WTF is for calling the truth untrue.

What you said here was untrue.
Are you denying that the wealth of a company ends up with the high level management and owners while workers are lucky to get a slight bit more than a cost of living increase during the years they do get salary increases?

I think Haksel is spot on.
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