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Old 08-13-2023, 10:17 AM
 
Location: az
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Do you really know that for a fact? Everything that I'm seeing around me doesn't seem to indicate that. And I live in the South, where there are more Blacks than any other region.
Most likely they won't vote.

At which point the Dems will start offering a gift card in exchange for their vote.

 
Old 08-13-2023, 10:17 AM
 
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Black men know that the anti-male current within the Democratic Party is real. At the same time, we also know the anti-Black current is there within the GOP. We have to pick between the anti-male party who at least has some pity towards Black men, vs the party that has a higher percentage of those with that anti-Black current that is more likely to be hard on Black men.
I don't think that the Dem party has ANY "pity" toward Black men or Black women. They simply pander to them to get their vote. Period. Once the Dems get their vote, they cast the Blacks aside like a used condom until the next election rolls around when they will once again resume their pandering and tossing a few crumbs to convince the Blacks how "sincere" they are.

Also, I don't see the "anti-Black current" in the R's that I know or even in the vast number of R's that I don't know.
 
Old 08-13-2023, 10:21 AM
 
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Most likely they won't vote.

At which point the Dems will start offering a gift card in exchange for their vote.
I live in the South. Given what you've talked about, I don't think you live in South. I see what goes on. While per capita, Blacks might vote less than Whites, they vote more than any other minority. When I went out to vote, there are no shortage of Black people who vote. There are those who don't vote. However, I think you are wrong, and I think you said this out of spite.
 
Old 08-13-2023, 10:22 AM
 
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It matters to her. I don't see many Black people being influenced by Ice Cube. At least not around me.
She's right to be worried. The Dems bank on the 90% Black vote and that's no longer a sure thing.
 
Old 08-13-2023, 10:24 AM
 
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I live in the South. Given what you've talked about, I don't think you live in South. I see what goes on. While per capita, Blacks might vote less than Whites, they vote more than any other minority. When I went out to vote, there are no shortage of Black people who vote. There are those who don't vote. However, I think you are wrong, and I think you said this out of spite.
Fine but I didn't write my post out of spite.
 
Old 08-13-2023, 10:32 AM
 
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Fine but I didn't write my post out of spite.
Well, with a comment like "At which point the Dems will start offering a gift card in exchange for their vote", I can't think of any reason to write that other than spite.
 
Old 08-13-2023, 10:36 AM
 
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Ice Cube still holds clout within the Black community. Will be interesting if Cube comes out in support of Trump in 2024.

Scrolling through Twitter a couple of weeks ago, I came across a clip of rightwing commentator Tucker Carlson interviewing a face I never thought I’d see on his platform: Ice Cube.

As in **** Tha Police Ice Cube.

“What planet am I on right now?” I found myself thinking.

In a two-part segment, Ice Cube and Carlson commiserated about cancel culture and cast doubt on the safety of the Covid vaccine. “It was six months, kind of a rush job and I didn’t feel safe,” Ice Cube said about his widely-publicized resistance to the Covid shot. He also claimed that he’s been banned from appearing on the talkshows The View and Oprah because he is too much of an “independent thinker”.

It seems Ice Cube has become quite the conservative media darling lately, sitting down with not just Carlson, but Joe Rogan and Piers Morgan as well. He’s joining a long list of rappers – Kanye West, Da Baby, Kodak Black, Lil Pump – who have all put themselves in dangerous proximity to conservative politicians even as rightwing populism threatens to destroy their communities...

https://www.theguardian.com/commenti...ative-ice-cube
Cube has been a rich suburban dad for decades. I enjoy listening to his interviews. He usually has an interview take on a topic. I can see how some aspects of conservatism would appeal to him. My hunch is if he does embrace the GOP, he’d be one of the good ones- not a conspiracy nut like Kanye.
 
Old 08-13-2023, 10:44 AM
 
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Well, with a comment like "At which point the Dems will start offering a gift card in exchange for their vote", I can't think of any reason to write that other than spite.

Because while I agree the Black vote might not vote Rep. Outside of identity politics and bragging rights for having say a Black mayor. What's the point?

20, 30, 40 years of voting Dem and not much to show for it.
 
Old 08-13-2023, 10:48 AM
 
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Because while I agree the Black vote might not vote Rep. Outside of identity politics and bragging rights for having say a Black mayor. What's the point?

20, 30, 40 years of voting Dem and not much to show for it.
Well, if you think Blacks are never going to vote Republican, why bother talking about it? And furthermore, what is the point in making such spiteful remarks? I have to ask that because all that does is turn away those who might otherwise want a political discourse in good faith. All I'm seeing from you is spitefulness and anger. I can't think of anything else. That is, if you think I'm wrong and there's something I'm missing.
 
Old 08-13-2023, 10:52 AM
 
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Free stuff. Buying votes.
And yet, voter participation within the Black population increases the more education and money one has. Plenty of middle class and upper middle class Black voters to consider. No need for "free stuff". Majority of Blacks in the middle and upper classes vote Democrat.

When I look at this "free stuff" comment, the only thing I see is resentment towards Blacks. I see gaslighting and a shaming tactic. This doesn't make me want to become a Republican. This isn't going to make more middle class Blacks want to become Republicans. The only thing your comment will do is provide more fodder to confirm the belief that conservatives are racists.
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