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Old 07-04-2008, 09:18 AM
 
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Sen Jesse Helms died this morning at age 86. He was a great patriot and a great anti-Communist. It is appropriate he died on our nation's Independence day. RIP
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Old 07-04-2008, 09:39 AM
 
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Gimme a break. We do hundreds of billions of dollars of trade, ANNUALLY, with Communist China, have for decades. China is a nation with nuclear weapons and is all but our sworn enemy. Yet thanks to Helms, he worked to keep the embargo with Cuba in effect and even today we can't legally purchase a good Cuban cigar or take a vacation to Cuba.

IMO, the embargo has LENGTHENED Castro's stay in power, as you can plainly see, the embargo has done NOTHING to shorten Castro's grip, it simply played into his hands by giving him a platform to criticize the USA, and it made Florida and National politics CAPTIVE to the large Cuban ex-pat community in Miami. Jesse Helms: Dumbest man in Congress.

Helms was a putz, deserving the Al Sharpton award for media grandstanding. Every time some insipid piece of "art" got done by some federal grant, there was Jesse the Clown getting airtime to pillory the poor schlep who did the "art" in question.

Great patriots are known for great achievements. AFAIK, Helms has NONE. Great patriot? Wake up, you must be dreaming. In the case of Helms, to die on the 4th of July means the Constitution gave us a courtesy flush today. Hallelujah.

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Old 07-04-2008, 10:19 AM
 
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Brutal.
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Old 07-04-2008, 10:24 AM
 
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Brutal.
Yes he was. Keeping the embargo perpetuated Cuba living under a brutal regime.
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Old 07-04-2008, 10:26 AM
 
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Yeah, Helms was a jerk. He was about as nasty a man as you could find in politics. The world is truly a better place without him.

"White people, wake up before it is too late. Do you want Negroes working beside you, your wife and your daughters, in your mills and factories? Frank Graham favors mingling of the races" - from a political attack ad created in part by Helms in 1950. The sad thing is, unlike George Wallace, Helms never really came around to understanding the evils of racism and homophobia.

Among his more stupid ideas was proposing an amendment offering war reparations to Japanese-Americans who had been interned during World War II - nothing wrong with that except that along with it he proposed an amendment stipulating that no reparations would be made unless the Japanese government compensated the families of Americans killed at Pearl Harbor.

As if the Japanese-Americans intered in the camps had ANYTHING to do with the Pearl Harbor attack.

Helms was an idiot - and basically a very bad man - and as I said, the world is better off without him.

Ken
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Old 07-04-2008, 10:36 AM
 
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Gimme a break. We do hundreds of billions of dollars of trade, ANNUALLY, with Communist China, have for decades. China is a nation with nuclear weapons and is all but our sworn enemy. Yet thanks to Helms, he worked to keep the embargo with Cuba in effect and even today we can't legally purchase a good Cuban cigar or take a vacation to Cuba.

IMO, the embargo has LENGTHENED Castro's stay in power, as you can plainly see, the embargo has done NOTHING to shorten Castro's grip, it simply played into his hands by giving him a platform to criticize the USA, and it made Florida and National politics CAPTIVE to the large Cuban ex-pat community in Miami. Jesse Helms: Dumbest man in Congress.

Helms was a putz, deserving the Al Sharpton award for media grandstanding. Every time some insipid piece of "art" got done by some federal grant, there was Jesse the Clown getting airtime to pillory the poor schlep who did the "art" in question.

Great patriots are known for great achievements. AFAIK, Helms has NONE. Great patriot? Wake up, you must be dreaming. In the case of Helms, to die on the 4th of July means the Constitution gave us a courtesy flush today. Hallelujah.

"courtesy flush"...LOL!

Just heard somone on the radio say "may he rot in hell" with a long list of his "accomplishments".
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Old 07-04-2008, 12:19 PM
 
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Sen Jesse Helms died this morning at age 86. He was a great patriot and a great anti-Communist. It is appropriate he died on our nation's Independence day. RIP
Great patriot??? One of the Republicans shining stars maybe but patriot? Try again.

From wiki:

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Helms was particularly vitriolic when speaking of blacks, gays and lesbians, blaming them for "the proliferation of AIDS," and stating that he disliked using the word "gay" to refer to them since, "...there's nothing gay about them."
Helms opposed the Martin Luther King Day bill in 1983 on grounds that King had two associates with communist ties, Stanley Levison and Jack O'Dell; as well, he voiced disapproval of King's alleged philandering.
Of civil rights protests Helms stated in 1963 that "The Negro cannot count forever on the kind of restraint that's thus far left him free to clog the streets, disrupt traffic, and interfere with other men's rights."[6] (WRAL-TV commentary, 1963) He also wrote, "Crime rates and irresponsibility among Negroes are a fact of life which must be faced." (New York Times, 2/8/81)
Helms' referred to the University of North Carolina (UNC) as the "University of Negroes and Communists." (Charleston Gazette, 9/15/95)[7]
Helms once deeply offended a black colleague, Democratic Senator Carol Moseley-Braun of Illinois, by singing part of "Dixie" on a Capitol elevator.
Soon after the Senate vote on the Confederate flag insignia, Sen. Jesse Helms (R.-N.C.) ran into Mosely-Braun in a Capitol elevator. Helms turned to his friend, Sen. Orrin Hatch (R.-Utah), and said, "Watch me make her cry. I'm going to make her cry. I'm going to sing 'Dixie' until she cries." He then proceeded to sing the song about "the good life" during slavery to Mosely-Braun (Gannett News Service, 9/2/93; Time, 8/16/93).[7]
While working on the 1950 Democrat primary campaign of Willis Smith against Frank Porter Graham, Helms helped create an ad that read "White people, wake up before it is too late. Do you want Negroes working beside you, your wife and your daughters, in your mills and factories? Frank Graham favors mingling of the races." Another ad featured photographs Helms himself had doctored to illustrate the allegation that Graham's wife had danced with a black man. (FAIR 9/1/01, The News and Observer 8/26/01)
Helms was an ardent supporter of the late Chile dictator Augusto Pinochet.[8]
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Old 07-04-2008, 12:32 PM
 
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As a North Carolina resident, albeit only since Helms has been out of office, I have to say that I'm very happy that his sort of ilk no longer carry the influence they once did in this state. And while I don't always like the hyper leftism of my current place of residence, Jessie Helms is not somebody to remember fondly.
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Old 07-04-2008, 01:45 PM
 
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Sen Jesse Helms died this morning at age 86. He was a great patriot and a great anti-Communist. It is appropriate he died on our nation's Independence day. RIP
He was a racist a$$hole and I am not sorry to see him enter the gates of Hell. Should have years ago. The country would be better off. Hopefully the rest of the old racist will soon follow him to meet Satan.
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Old 07-04-2008, 04:08 PM
 
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I am really feeling the TOLERANCE from the left on this one! I wonder if all you morons feel the same way about Robert Byrd?
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