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Is 21 the legal age for joining the military in this country? If not, should the legal age for joining the military and going to war to fight and possibly die be raised to 21?
Sorry, Austin. You have to know that the younger men are those preferred by the military. They are less likely to have a family and therefore back off in combat. They take orders so much more readily since they have been doing so all their lives.
Anyone who uses that serve in the military makes one old enough to vote is using liberal reasoning and nothing less. I never did agree with the 18 year old voting thing because I taught too many 18 year olds who just weren't mature enough to take part in voting. In fact, all of them were too young.
"The trainwreck that is the Obama admiinistration has shown we need to reform voting standards NOW. Suggestions:
1) Only those paying income tax may vote.
2) Raise the minimum voting age to 25."
Should we raise the legal age for joining the mililtary to 25 as well? Not smart enough to vote prior to age 25, but still "valid" enough to go to war and be killed if under age 25?
Let's see. If your wife doesn't work and doesn't have to pay income taxes because she earns no income, should she NOT BE ALLOWED to vote?
You need to stop here. You are getting a bit more ridiculous each time.
nononsenseguy, again, the question: Why, in you opinion, is it okay for people under the ages of 21 and 25 to join military and go to Iraq and die in a war, yet you think they are probably too dumb to vote? If those folks are too dumb to vote, then surely we should not send them off to war to be killed. We don't even execute retarded people (who have been convicted of murder) in many states in this country!
Surely those same under-age-21-and-age-25 citizens who are too dumb to vote would be too dumb to have a clue as why they were going to war, other than the propaganda being fed to them by recruiters.
Certainly, making the voting age higher (21 or 25, as eeek suggests), would require that we make the age for joining the U.S. military higher. Plus an IQ test would be good. Plus a review of their income tax returns wouldn't hurt. Hmmmm. Make sure they're "good citizens" before sacrificing them to the war gods.
Come on Austin, the legal joining the military age is 17 and has been as long as I have been on this Earth and that is a loooooong time you know. Now do you want to go back where we once were or go down another year.
This thing is too silly for me to keep commenting on. Are you wanting to go back and retrieve all those "kids" that lost their lives in Vietnam, Korea, WW II, and WWI or you willing to leave their lives and resulting deaths alone since nobody ever thought about your argument back then.
I often see your argument about legal drinking ages but most of the states don't allow people to drink under 21 so why let them vote so soon.
Don't stop short, though. Let's require voters to be male, Christian, free, white, 21 years of age, and landowners, and require them to wear a sidearm to the polls and bring proof of employment and solvency and their own Bibles to swear allegiance to the United States before being allowed to vote.
That'll cut out the riffraff and make America great again.
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The trainwreck that is the Obama admiinistration has shown we need to reform voting standards NOW. Suggestions:
1) Only those paying income tax may vote.
2) Raise the minimum voting age to 25.
The framers were onto something when they said only landowners could vote. They founders knew voting was a privilege and only active contributors to the system should have a say.
We should revert to that mentality today. Only those who show gross income on their tax returns should be allowed to vote. If you don't contribute, you don't deserve the privilege. We use the gross figure so as not to penalize people who play the game but have earned tax credits or other deductions which help the economy (such as charitable contributions and depreciation for rental property).
If you're a welfare momma, you stay home on election day. This isn't a punishment; it's the absence of a privilege. Only those who support the system should get a say in how money is spent. If you only sponge off society, why should you get to vote yourself more benefits?
This would go along way in slowing the cycle of inter-generational dependency the Democrats have created. It would also curtail their practice of getting elected by buying votes as Obama has done. And above all, it will reverse the ever-looming point-of-no-return threshold where more than half the population pays no taxes. (See the Roman Empire).
As for a minimum voting age, I think it's important to have first-hand historical perspective. 1992 seems like yesterday to me. For those who recall, we had a similar situation as we have today. We had an unqualified candidate in Bill Clinton with a thin resume and questionable character getting a total pass. We saw the results; an ineffective incompetent morally bankrupt president whose big legacy was getting impeached. We paid for his inaction against terrorism with 9-11. You could argue Clinton's incompetence and inattention to the job (he spent all of 1998 working on his impeachment defense) caused 9-11 and thus the Iraq War. Economically, Clinton's actions with the CRA were the foundation of the mortgage crisis and the subsequent severe recession we are in. Yes, we are still paying and paying dearly because the media failed to scrutinize Bill Clinton.
The problem is, many young voters don't remember any of this. An 18-year-old is too young to have witnessed the backstory, and to have seen the disaster from a media that does not vet liberal candidates.
The result? History has repeated itself. We again elected a completely unvetted unqualified incompetent dishonest candidate in Obama who, only a month in, is wreaking disaster on this country and this economy. And as with Bill Clinton, America will be paying a dear price for decades to come for not heeding history.
Do you really think a homeless bum living over a grate downtown, or a 20-year-old unmarried high school dropout on welfare with three kids should have an equal say in choosing our leadership as the guy working 70 hours a week, employing five workers, and raising a decent family?
The trainwreck that is the Obama admiinistration has shown we need to reform voting standards NOW. Suggestions:
1) Only those paying income tax may vote.
2) Raise the minimum voting age to 25.
The framers were onto something when they said only landowners could vote. They founders knew voting was a privilege and only active contributors to the system should have a say.
We should revert to that mentality today. Only those who show gross income on their tax returns should be allowed to vote. If you don't contribute, you don't deserve the privilege. We use the gross figure so as not to penalize people who play the game but have earned tax credits or other deductions which help the economy (such as charitable contributions and depreciation for rental property).
If you're a welfare momma, you stay home on election day. This isn't a punishment; it's the absence of a privilege. Only those who support the system should get a say in how money is spent. If you only sponge off society, why should you get to vote yourself more benefits?
This would go along way in slowing the cycle of inter-generational dependency the Democrats have created. It would also curtail their practice of getting elected by buying votes as Obama has done. And above all, it will reverse the ever-looming point-of-no-return threshold where more than half the population pays no taxes. (See the Roman Empire).
As for a minimum voting age, I think it's important to have first-hand historical perspective. 1992 seems like yesterday to me. For those who recall, we had a similar situation as we have today. We had an unqualified candidate in Bill Clinton with a thin resume and questionable character getting a total pass. We saw the results; an ineffective incompetent morally bankrupt president whose big legacy was getting impeached. We paid for his inaction against terrorism with 9-11. You could argue Clinton's incompetence and inattention to the job (he spent all of 1998 working on his impeachment defense) caused 9-11 and thus the Iraq War. Economically, Clinton's actions with the CRA were the foundation of the mortgage crisis and the subsequent severe recession we are in. Yes, we are still paying and paying dearly because the media failed to scrutinize Bill Clinton.
The problem is, many young voters don't remember any of this. An 18-year-old is too young to have witnessed the backstory, and to have seen the disaster from a media that does not vet liberal candidates.
The result? History has repeated itself. We again elected a completely unvetted unqualified incompetent dishonest candidate in Obama who, only a month in, is wreaking disaster on this country and this economy. And as with Bill Clinton, America will be paying a dear price for decades to come for not heeding history.
Do you really think a homeless bum living over a grate downtown, or a 20-year-old unmarried high school dropout on welfare with three kids should have an equal say in choosing our leadership as the guy working 70 hours a week, employing five workers, and raising a decent family?
I don't. We need voting reform NOW!
Yes. Anybody who will not vote like you would should not be allowed to vote. So there! (And no white shoes after Labor Day, too.)
By the way...if no "welfare mommas" can vote then what about the deadbeat dads that created the little bundles of joy and left momma on welfare?
Why don't you just go all the way with it rather than pussyfooting around???
Limit voting to those who drive 5 Series BMW's cars or better.....I sure that's the voting bloc your looking for....LOL
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