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Old 03-18-2009, 08:33 AM
 
Location: Washington DC
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BTW, that cult lacked the sheer firepower many others in this country have. Additionally, the government wasn't broke at that time and defection was not an issue.
Oh right, you militia are armed to the teeth. LOL even the ATF can stomp militia butts and the ATF is a sad organization.
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Old 03-18-2009, 08:35 AM
 
Location: North Cackelacky....in the hills.
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Arctic,the poster in question doesn't bother himself with facts or logic.
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Old 03-18-2009, 08:36 AM
 
Location: North Cackelacky....in the hills.
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Oh right, you militia are armed to the teeth. LOL even the ATF can stomp militia butts and the ATF is a sad organization.
Actually,the BATF lost at Waco....

It ran out of ammo and the Davidians allowed them to leave.

Your ignorance of the facts is typical.
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Old 03-18-2009, 08:36 AM
 
Location: The Woods
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Arctic,the poster in question doesn't bother himself with facts or logic.
I already know that but for the benefit of all those who are reasonable I don't mind posting some facts...
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Old 03-18-2009, 08:38 AM
 
Location: The Woods
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Oh right, you militia are armed to the teeth. LOL even the ATF can stomp militia butts and the ATF is a sad organization.
The Davidians allowed the ATF to collect the dead or injured and retreat. If they had continued shooting in defense they would have wiped all the ATF agents there out...

And don't worry, us gun owner/militia types have learned some lessons about correct tactics anyways...
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Old 03-18-2009, 08:45 AM
 
Location: Washington DC
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Actually,the BATF lost at Waco....

It ran out of ammo and the Davidians allowed them to leave.

Your ignorance of the facts is typical.
And what happened April 19th?
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Old 03-18-2009, 08:47 AM
 
Location: Washington DC
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The Davidians allowed the ATF to collect the dead or injured and retreat. If they had continued shooting in defense they would have wiped all the ATF agents there out...

And don't worry, us gun owner/militia types have learned some lessons about correct tactics anyways...
LOL oh yeah the Feds are quaking in their boots.
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Old 03-18-2009, 08:53 AM
 
Location: North Cackelacky....in the hills.
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And what happened April 19th?
The FBI burnt men,women and children to death....

The BATF was not involved.

This is all openly available,perhaps you should educate yourself on the topic?
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Old 03-18-2009, 09:09 AM
 
Location: Raleigh, NC
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What people don't realize is how chaotic a situation like this would get. An isolated scenario like Waco pales in comparison. The Feds are armed well, sure. But they have humans driving these awesome mechanized vehicles. Humans that have throughout history defected towards the rebellion when the SHTF and see their own citizens dying at the hands of empty suits in their cozy chairs. They also have a less nimble centralized command that is fiscally broke. If the currency collapses, these soldiers will need to be paid, and there's plenty of gold in the rebellion camp versus worthless paper fiat money. Look up in history books what side the French soldiers were on when peasants stormed the palace to capture the King and Queen. The soldiers either turned their backs or actually helped out the peasants.
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Old 03-18-2009, 09:12 AM
 
Location: Washington DC
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The FBI burnt men,women and children to death....

The BATF was not involved.

This is all openly available,perhaps you should educate yourself on the topic?
Yeah it all available. ATF was involved in the final assault. And the Davidians started the fires. The Davidian leaders were convicted by a jury of their peers.

This is a model of what will happen to fringe groups who take up arms against the United States.
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