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Right, see there you go displacing your anger, you are not angry with gay people, you are angry with white people for spraying your people down with water hoses. Gay people didn't do that to blacks. Gay people just want to be accepted and they want all discrimination to stop. They want acceptance and the ability to succeed without being impeded with political and religious bias and BS. It's that easy to understand. Thanks.
What the f....are you talking about? You bought up what happened in the 60's. If your going to make a correlation between blacks and gays, make sure you GET ALL OF THE INFORMATION out there. I do not have any anger at all just intollerance to BS. I wasn't born then, and never experienced any form of discrimination. Where in the world did i indicated that GAY's were responsible.
If your going to start a thread and try to provide examples, make sure you can back them up. Again, provide the information that i asked or provide some type of arguement. Otherwise you and this thread was a utter and total waste of anyone's time.
Discrimination of today is not in the same form as discrimination of the 50s and 60s. In the 50s it was more about abuse and outright hatred.
Discrimination of today is more subtle and you see it in rudeness and other issues like denial of privileges. etc
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What the f....are you talking about? You bought up what happened in the 60's. If your going to make a correlation between blacks and gays, make sure you GET ALL OF THE INFORMATION out there. I do not have any anger at all to intollerance to BS. I wasn't born then, and never experienced any form of discrimination. Where in the world did i indicated that GAY's were responsible.
If your going to start a thread and try to provide examples, make sure you can back them up. Again, provide the information that i asked or provide some type of arguement. Otherwise you and this thread was a utter and total waste of anyone's time.
just to play devils advocate... mexicans were very much discriminated in CA and TX.
signs often read, No Dogs or Mexicans allowed. Texas had a higher lynching rate for mexicans than any other state or people. and mexicans couldnt marry or go to school with whom they chose.
its kinda funny. desegregation of schools first happened in CA. as did the repeal of antimiscegenation(mixing) laws. in the 1940's. cases invovlving mexicans.
but like a previous poster said, its of no use to try and quantify who suffered more than the other.
the point is that we should all benefit from precedents of equality set before us.
lets use these common threads to help all opressed peoples.
that simple.
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So i guess in that case, we should vote to give ALL ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS amnesty then? After all, it would be WRONG of us to believe otherwise according to you.... right?
By the way, tell me when ANYOTHER race, religion or sex were sprayed with water hoses, hung from a tree and set on fire, denied their civil rights (not marriage). I'll wait for your oh so wise knowledge on the empathy and morals of what Blacks should and should not do.
Has the OP accomplished their mission of divisiveness in this thread? Are various posters arguing thus cementing the seeds of discord. Perhaps this discord can be transferred to PRESIDENT Obama?
The gay community was never considered 1/3rd of a man. But a gay black man would be.
How can gay people expect to ride on the coat tails of an entire group of people shut out of society with laws designed to keep them living on the fringes of American culture in a permanent social and economic underclass?
The two "struggles" are not the same and are not equal in any way whatsoever.
The gay community was never considered 1/3rd of a man. But a gay black man would be.
How can gay people expect to ride on the coat tails of an entire group of people shut out of society with laws designed to keep them living on the fringes of American culture in a permanent social and economic underclass?
The two "struggles" are not the same and are not equal in any way whatsoever.
Why does any of that matter?
As for riding coattails, why depreciate the contribution of the African American struggle for justice and full inclusion into American life? Why shouldn't any group who is excluded from the full promise of American liberty model themselves after a movement which has attempted to bring about the full measure of liberty and justice as enumerated in the Constitution? What does it matter if their experiences are not equal to or greater than those experienced by African Americans? Even if we must stoop to quantifying suffering, the fact that they are excluded from the full rights of citizenship should be more than sufficient cause for garnering the support of those whose suffering was longer and more severe.
The gay community was never considered 1/3rd of a man. But a gay black man would be.
How can gay people expect to ride on the coat tails of an entire group of people shut out of society with laws designed to keep them living on the fringes of American culture in a permanent social and economic underclass?
The two "struggles" are not the same and are not equal in any way whatsoever.
Whoever voted for the second option I assume is very ignorant. You must not realize that there are some restaurants and locally owned stores that will not cater to gay people.
There isn't really a huge difference between the African-American Civil Rights movement and the LGBT Rights Movement.
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