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except they don't realize the effects of discharge from the military upon people.. it shows up on background investigations, and keeps people from being able to gain employement. So further giving people a reason to discriminate, but not because they were gay, because they were discharged from the military....for whatever reason right??
you people are bigots..
I don't care if you're decorated, and serve the nation well in combat... you don't serve the nation well by pushing hate and intolerance.. and you're just a decorated military officer who happens to be a bigot.. if you support this unfair treatment...
sorry... that's just how it is... just because you serve our country doesn't give you a free pass on being a bigot...
and it doesn't mean you can not or should not be called out on it...
if that offends you... sorry.. get over yourselves... people wanting and willing to serve their country should not be an exclusive club... when it becomes that... it underminds its own noble cause...and loses respect from everyone...
Persecute: "To harass or punish in a manner designed to grieve or afflict those who differ in origin, religion, social outlook, or belief."
I'd say being harassed while in the military for being or being perceived as gay, or being discharged from the military simply for being found out as gay is most certainly persecution.
Ever been in the military? Well, I was. And the day I was discharged (honorably, I might add) was one of the happiest days of my life.
I agree that no one should be harassed for being gay. Consider, though, that DADT was instituted to avoid precisely those kinds of situations.
It is not "persecution" to apply the law that exists under the UCMJ.
Bottom line: the military does not exist to educate its members in sensitivity to the vagaries of sexual preferences. To the extent to which attention paid to homosexual "rights" detract our forces from their mission of defending the nation, such activities are detrimental to our national interests and should be given minimal attention.
So perhaps we should break alliances with countries who allow gays to serve openly since we might have to work together?
Yeah. Here are the countries that have an outright ban on gays in the military. We should only work with the militaries of these countries. Maybe we should even aspire to be like them.
Brazil
Cuba
Peru
Egypt
Greece
Iran
North Korea
Saudi Arabia
Singapore
South Korea
Syria
Turkey
Venezuela
Yemen
To the extent to which attention paid to homosexual "rights" detract our forces from their mission of defending the nation, such activities are detrimental to our national interests and should be given minimal attention.
What about when DADT directly affects the security of the Nation? Such is the case with Lt. Dan Choi, the latest Gay arabic-speaking linguist amongst the many other Gay linguists tossed out of the military.
Considering there is shortage of arabic speaking linguists in the military I believe that their discharges are very detrimental to our national interests and should be given maximum attention since we are at war with arabic speaking terrorists, don't you?
Ever been in the military? Well, I was. And the day I was discharged (honorably, I might add) was one of the happiest days of my life.
I agree that no one should be harassed for being gay. Consider, though, that DADT was instituted to avoid precisely those kinds of situations.
It is not "persecution" to apply the law that exists under the UCMJ.
Bottom line: the military does not exist to educate its members in sensitivity to the vagaries of sexual preferences. To the extent to which attention paid to homosexual "rights" detract our forces from their mission of defending the nation, such activities are detrimental to our national interests and should be given minimal attention.
i very much agree w/ the statements in this post. i think the mission of the armed forces is the foremost consideration, as it should always be. good post.
Yeah. Here are the countries that have an outright ban on gays in the military. We should only work with the militaries of these countries. Maybe we should even aspire to be like them.
Brazil Cuba
Peru
Egypt
Greece Iran North Korea Saudi Arabia
Singapore
South Korea
Syria
Turkey
Venezuela
Yemen
I agree that no one should be harassed for being gay. Consider, though, that DADT was instituted to avoid precisely those kinds of situations.
I love how people twist these things to try to make them sound noble and just.
DADT wasn't instituted to protect gays. It was instituted as a compromise after Bill Clinton tried to allow gays to serve openly. People panicked. The very idea of gays in the military scared them, so the compromise was, "As long as they don't say anything about it, we'll accept them." Funny that this is still the same philosophy that many in this forum espouse. They "accept" gays as long as they don't have to hear a word about it.
i very much agree w/ the statements in this post. i think the mission of the armed forces is the foremost consideration, as it should always be. good post.
Imposing unfair rules on certain groups within the military is not at all good for the military as a whole. I think it would be better to just flat out ban gays from serving than to have this DADT nonsense.
except they don't realize the effects of discharge from the military upon people.. it shows up on background investigations, and keeps people from being able to gain employement.
I don't know about not gaining employment, but they definitely will not get veteran's preference points if they have a dishonorable discharge.
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