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So you're saying that the leading black organization is using unacceptable terminology in their title?? Maybe you should tell them! How is anyone supposed to keep up? It's one thing today, and then tomorrow, it's something else and everybody is whining and oh so sensitive! Incredible.
I have read that there are some debates about the name but personally I don't care since the name is reflective of when it was created. I know what NAACP stands for and when I speak about the organization I say NAACP. I do not say the National Association for the Advancement of Colored People, and I have not heard anyone say the full name except when someone asks what does it stand for.
My curiosity is more on the line of why would I call myself colored because of the NAACP?
Are they not the foremost racist organization for coloreds? If not, who is? It's no secret that it's okay for colored folks to have all kinds of racist organizations but if whites had the equivalent, there would be more howls and screams of "RACISM"!
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Originally Posted by drkman
My curiosity is more on the line of why would I call myself colored because of the NAACP?
Are they not the foremost racist organization for coloreds? If not, who is? It's no secret that it's okay for colored folks to have all kinds of racist organizations but if whites had the equivalent, there would be more howls and screams of "RACISM"!
Are they not the foremost racist organization for coloreds? If not, who is? It's no secret that it's okay for colored folks to have all kinds of racist organizations but if whites had the equivalent, there would be more howls and screams of "RACISM"!
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Originally Posted by tb4000
What does that have to do with what he asked?
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Originally Posted by bugguy
Everything!
It has nothing to do with what I asked. I was attempting to have a rational conversation on this thread but your views on this are not conducive to one happening so I will not speak on the matter of the NAACP again. Have a good one.
Disagree. You comment says that ALL Latinos have African blood and are just like you....FALSE. Mexico is Mestizo and European. Cuban is like the US....Whites and Blacks clearly defined with a population of Mulattos (mixed). Many countries do not have a history of Africans..Chile, Argentina, Bolivia, Paraguay..etc. Brazil does have a large Black community, however a large white and mestizo one as well. Yes Latin America is diverse, but not EVERYONE is black or has black blood. You might be able to have common traits with Black Cubans, but not Indian Guatamalans.
Wrong!!! Well at least on the Mexican part. 200,000 African slaves were brought to Mexico and intermarried within the society forming a large basis of today's Mexican populace. I should know, I have "Afro-Mexican" heritage myself. I was born in the US to a white or "Irish-American" mother and Mexican father (yes my father is from Mexico) Guadalajara to be exact. Most people in the US believe me to be black or “African American”. Everyone including Mexican’s look at me funny when I state I have Mexican heritage when my father’s family has a long history in Mexico. Actually a bit of trivia that most including Mexican’s don’t know is that the first president of Mexico was “Afro-Mexican”. His name? Vicente Guerrero. The guy actually helped to write the Mexican constitution. Look it up. BTW sorry for going off the deep end with this one but I really hate seeing this sort of bias continue. African heritage is a large a crucial part of Mexico’s history, and it shouldn’t be glossed over in such fashion.
Wrong!!! Well at least on the Mexican part. 200,000 African slaves were brought to Mexico and intermarried within the society forming a large basis of today's Mexican populace. I should know, I have "Afro-Mexican" heritage myself. I was born in the US to a white or "Irish-American" mother and Mexican father (yes my father is from Mexico) Guadalajara to be exact. Most people in the US believe me to be black or “African American”. Everyone including Mexican’s look at me funny when I state I have Mexican heritage when my father’s family has a long history in Mexico. Actually a bit of trivia that most including Mexican’s don’t know is that the first president of Mexico was “Afro-Mexican”. His name? Vicente Guerrero. The guy actually helped to write the Mexican constitution. Look it up. BTW sorry for going off the deep end with this one but I really hate seeing this sort of bias continue. African heritage is a large a crucial part of Mexico’s history, and it shouldn’t be glossed over in such fashion.
Gracias. I've been doing this same type of educating for years now. Glad to hear from another hermano.........
What I don't like about the NAACP is that in reality, it has NO PURPOSE. Moorish (so called "Black" people for communication purposes) don't understand the origins of Colored. Get Blacks Law Dictionary and look up 'Color of Law', but I'll save you the time.
color of law - The appearance or semblance, without the substance, of a legal right. The term usu. implies a misuse of power made possible because the wrongdoer is clothed with the authority of the state. State action is synonymous with color of [state] law in the context of federal civil-rights statues or criminal law.
This is from Blacks Law Dictionary, the most respected book in the law/legal community.
Check the constitution also, U.S. Code: Title 18, Chapter 13, Section 242. It states:
"Whoever, under color of any law, statute, ordinance, regulation, or custom, willfully subjects any person in any State, Territory, Commonwealth, Possession, or District to the deprivation of any rights, privileges, or immunities secured or protected by the Constitution or laws of the United States, or to different punishments, pains, or penalties, on account of such person being an alien, or by reason of his color, or race, than are prescribed for the punishment of citizens, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than one year, or both; and if bodily injury results from the acts committed in violation of this section or if such acts include the use, attempted use, or threatened use of a dangerous weapon, explosives, or fire, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than ten years, or both; and if death results from the acts committed in violation of this section or if such acts include kidnapping or an attempt to kidnap, aggravated sexual abuse, or an attempt to commit aggravated sexual abuse, or an attempt to kill, shall be fined under this title, or imprisoned for any term of years or for life, or both, or may be sentenced to death."
This is where we get the term "Colored" from. So as we clearly see, under color of law (by definition of the law itself) we do not have any rights that constitutional citizens have...because we are not citizens. Now in order to be classified under color of law, you need a "color" (Black). So, what does "Black" mean in law and where does it come from? (go to Blacks Law again):
The Black Codes of 1865 - Antebellum state laws enacted to regulate slavery. Laws enacted shortly after the Civil War in the ex-Confederate states to restrict the freedom of newly freed slaves to ensure a supply of inexpensive agricultural labor and to maintain white supremacy.
As far as in the context of the color black:
black - characterized by the absence of light <a black night>. Reflecting or transmitting little or no light <black water>. (Webster)
So now that we know where Black (in law and the color black) and the term colored people comes from, why would you call yourselves Black? This has nothing to do with how you look. We are different shades of olive (research this, olives are not only green). Black does not reflect light, so how can this describe our race? Black is outside of law and the human family, so how can this describe our race? Colored people have no protection under the constitution so how can there be a National Association for the "Advancement" of Colored people? This is why our brothers and sisters (ignorant of their actions) get nowhere calling themselves black/Negro going around screaming "Black Power" and marching saying "We shall overcome" because these labels are not recognized in court. Now we can understand why our brothers are being shot down in the streets by police and nothing is done and why after all these years we are facing the same issues.
See, this is not the "angry black guy mad at the world" talking. I'm reading directly from the Europeans literature and constitution. I didn't say it, THEY did. Look up white in Blacks Law Dictionary to learn why Europeans (so called Whites) are befitting more than us in society.
Start by not calling Native Americans "Indians" since they are not from India
I know your intentions are noble...but my wife's an Indian, and finds "native American" unbearably stuffy, clumsy, silly, awkward, and impossible to say with a straight face. In her estimation, she's an Indian, and the only time we hear "native American" in the family is when my kids are teasing her..or each other.
She DID have a close friend years ago, who was born in India, and they got a lot of fun joking about this.
So much for PC...a little is fine, too much just gets silly. As my wife once pointed out, "anyone born in the US is a native American". PC is just clumsy, and the only proper 'venue' for the term 'native American' may possibly be in public speaking...or government publications. I private conversation, it just sounds silly.
(PS...can you HONESTLY picture a group of aboriginal Canadians, in their own lives, calling each other "First Nations"?...I can't)
I know your intentions are noble...but my wife's an Indian, and finds "native American" unbearably stuffy, clumsy, silly, awkward, and impossible to say with a straight face. In her estimation, she's an Indian, and the only time we hear "native American" in the family is when my kids are teasing her..or each other.
She DID have a close friend years ago, who was born in India, and they got a lot of fun joking about this.
So much for PC...a little is fine, too much just gets silly. As my wife once pointed out, "anyone born in the US is a native American". PC is just clumsy, and the only proper 'venue' for the term 'native American' may possibly be in public speaking...or government publications. I private conversation, it just sounds silly.
(PS...can you HONESTLY picture a group of aboriginal Canadians, in their own lives, calling each other "First Nations"?...I can't)
IF she has an assocaite that prefers to be called native american, do you abide by it or no?
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