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View Poll Results: Should Obama's Green Czar, Van Jones, Be Fired?
Yes - he should be fired 72 79.12%
No - he should not be fired 19 20.88%
Voters: 91. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 09-04-2009, 07:09 AM
 
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hmmm. i wonder - will a van fit under a bus?
Very pithy..nice job
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Old 09-04-2009, 07:10 AM
 
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Corporations have put garbage into a lot of neighborhoods, not only minorities'.
If he were a true communist he would have said "poor neighborhoods".

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Old 09-04-2009, 07:13 AM
 
Location: S.E. US
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If he were a true communist he would have said "poor neighborhoods".

Then, maybe he's even worse than I thought.
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Old 09-04-2009, 07:14 AM
 
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If he were a true communist he would have said "poor neighborhoods".

If he and Obama have their way, we will all be living in "poor neighborhoods". You liberals must wake up before it's too late.
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Old 09-04-2009, 07:18 AM
 
Location: Unperson Everyman Land
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Default An Objective Look At Van Jones

This article was written by a Elisa Strickland (Résumé) in 2005, long before the present controversy colored him one way or the other.

Jones first moved to the Bay Area in the spring of 1992, when the San Francisco-based Lawyers Committee for Human Rights hired a batch of law students to act as legal observers during the trial of Rodney King's assailants. Eva Paterson, who was then the committee's executive director, remembers getting a cover letter that stood out from the rest: "It was this piece of stationery that had little faces across the top, a stencil of little guys with dreads. We said, 'Oh, yeah, we're hiring him.'"
Paterson got to know Jones over the coming months, and enjoyed having the young radical in her office. "He was a kid then, really," she said. "He was brilliant, pretty feisty, pretty in your face, but that's how you are when you're young. Just a force of nature."

When the verdicts came down -- not guilty for three of the officers involved, and deadlocked on the fourth -- Paterson's office, like the city, reacted with disbelief. Paterson said she felt like picking up her office chair and hurling it out the window. The staff hit the streets to monitor the demonstrations that erupted in San Francisco. One week later, while Jones was observing the first large rally since the lifting of the city's state of emergency, he got swept up in mass arrests. It was a turning point in his life.

Jones had planned to move to Washington, DC, and had already landed a job and an apartment there. But in jail, he said, "I met all these young radical people of color -- I mean really radical, communists and anarchists. And it was, like, 'This is what I need to be a part of.'" Although he already had a plane ticket, he decided to stay in San Francisco. "I spent the next ten years of my life working with a lot of those people I met in jail, trying to be a revolutionary." In the months that followed, he let go of any lingering thoughts that he might fit in with the status quo. "I was a rowdy nationalist on April 28th, and then the verdicts came down on April 29th," he said. "By August, I was a communist."

In 1994, the young activists formed a socialist collective, Standing Together to Organize a Revolutionary Movement, or STORM, which held study groups on the theories of Marx and Lenin and dreamed of a multiracial socialist utopia.

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Old 09-04-2009, 07:20 AM
 
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Please..the guy is human trash and needs to go...
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Old 09-04-2009, 07:31 AM
 
Location: Wisconsin
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1. Jones promotes market based solutions to sustainability. Wrote a whole book on it.
Jones and 0bama are only using capitalism as one of his tools to help push his agenda.

Van Jones:

I think that this green movement has to pursue those same steps and stages. Right now we say we want to move from suicidal gray capitalism to something eco-capitalism where at least we're not fast-tracking the destruction of the whole planet. Will that be enough? No, it won't be enough. We want to go beyond the systems of exploitation and oppression altogether. But, that's a process and I think that's what's great about the movement that is beginning to emerge is that the crisis is so severe in terms of joblessness, violence and now ecological threats that people are willing to be both pragmatic and visionary. So the green economy will start off as a small subset and we are going to push it and push it and push it until it becomes the engine for transforming the whole society."


http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/09/03/raw-data-van-jones-words/

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2. What do you fear about blacks rising out of poverty? Last I checked, they didn't exactly have equal footing on the whole.

You conservatives are so politically correct that you don't even allow someone to propose solutions to racial injustices in our society. We are just supposed to pretend everybody has equal opportunity? Not yet. Maybe someday.
I have absolutely no problem trying to find ways to lift people up from poverty, and I'm definitely not sure what the PC angle to this might be.

But using the federal government to divert billions into green energy for the purposes of giving green jobs to one racial group is not the function of government. If our electrical grid needs more energy, fine, but to exploit this as an excuse for instituting social and economic justice, ie... reparations for slavery?
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Old 09-04-2009, 07:35 AM
 
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That's a good look at him. Pretty much what has been said piecemeal in other threads, all of which the libs try to sweep away with a few strokes. It's good to see it all together in one place. It may be harder for them to pick it apart, polish it up, or make it go away.
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Old 09-04-2009, 07:40 AM
 
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That's a good look at him. Pretty much what has been said piecemeal in other threads, all of which the libs try to sweep away with a few strokes. It's good to see it all together in one place. It may be harder for them to pick it apart, polish it up, or make it go away.

Notice the author's resume Résumé

No right-wing spin involved.

It's just the facts as they stood in 2005.
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Old 09-04-2009, 07:49 AM
 
Location: The ends DO NOT justify the means!!!
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If the poll used fired as:


v. fired, fir·ing, fires
v.tr. 1. a. To cause to burn; ignite.
b. To light (something) up as if by fire


I say yes. Anyone who declares that they are a communist or supports such policy should be set ablaze so that we may all enjoy the the sound of them screaming in pain.
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