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the only debunking is done in your head. I had to untwist your posts to even attempt to make sense of them.
Jumping in and twisting things around is exactly what you are doing.
As Marcus Garvey said, "don't remove the kinks from your hair, remove them from your brain". So you have a lot of debunking and untwisting to do in your brain and your hair perhaps as Garvey himself says, so you have got lots of homework to do chile lol. Also I asked questions in previous posts which you didn't answer, to get your further perspectives and nuances.
Again, no one said that Michelle Obama doesn't descend from slaves or did.
And again, Michelle Obama is African American because her ancestry is rooted back to antebellum and colonial times in the USA. Barack Obama doesn't come from African American background since his father is Kenyan. His father could claim the label of black, but he is NOT an African American.
African American and black do not mean the same thing.
Not all black people were slaves. Many blacks came to the New World free and many blacks are descendants of people that were never enslaved.
There were many WHITE slaves actually.
And most race mixing did NOT come from rape. Lots of it and most of it was consensual and many people of different races fell in love.
The majority of blacks imported to the US were slaves. To suggest otherwise is disingenuous. Never heard of any white slaves, but there was indentured servitude. It was a bit hard to keep them in check because running off and blending in with the free population was not an issue. Yet another benefit to enslaving black people.
The majority of blacks imported to the US were slaves. To suggest otherwise is disingenuous. Never heard of any white slaves, but there was indentured servitude. It was a bit hard to keep them in check because running off and blending in with the free population was not an issue. Yet another benefit to enslaving black people.
BTW, you can't have consensual sex with a slave.
There were many black and mulatto indentured servants. Many blacks came free or were free or were NEVER enslaved. This is a fact, and I don't know why people overlook this.
And yes there were actual WHITE slaves. And keep in mind that during the antebellum colonial period and even for much of postbellum era and period, race was based on and determined on appearance. So there were many people that were accepted and embraced as white by the white community, even when it was known that they may have had black and/or Native American ancestry. And people that had any mixed ancestry no matter how remote were considered to be mixed race or other. Some were even able to buy whiteness etc.
Africans that had been baptized before or upon arrival to the new world British colonies were also deemed to be automatically FREE.
Slavery was NOT based on race at all. Originally British common law stated that the individuals status was determined by their father or paternal or patrilineal line, however the colonists and government changed this law because many people who were put into slavery or subservient status ended up challenging and suing the government and taking and making cases to the courts and different jurisdictions and they would win their freedom or other rights or special privileges because of their fathers, and the law had to abide by the rules, so they let many women challenging the courts for their freedom go free. So British in the 1660s adopted the Latin and Roman law of partus sequitur which meant that a person being enslaved or bound to such would be put into slavery on the basis of if their mother or a maternal matrilineal ancestor was a slave. It was not based on race. The first targets of servantude and enslavement were usually Irish and other whites. In fact, Irish got treated worse than the blacks from very early on. It was more so in the 1700s that the colonies turned more to enslavement as a source as they referred to such as indentured servantude, but it eventually and gradually became slavery. But again, slavery was not racial.
People like Sally Hemmings and Eston Hemmings were actually considered WHITE by the way. There was no such thing as a one drop rule back then.
White racial purity is a bogus concept. Many whites are mixed.
Many people freely mixed. There were many black men that mixed with white women and there were many white men that mixed with black women. And studies show that a substantial portion came from consensual unions. Mixed race people also mixed freely with people of monoracial backgrounds or other mixed backgrounds.
Many of the first Africans to come to the US where freemen, not slaves, and there where no miscegenation laws so many mixed with European descent people. As well as some migrants from the Northern parts of Africa. As free people they also were able to develop and accumulate generational wealth.
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Many whites are descendants of black slaves who "passed."
One drop rule was a 20th century concept. One drop rule has nothing to do with slavery. And the racial divide did not begin during slavery btw. The one drop rule was only utilized in some southern states from 1931 to 1967. Not before or after.
Up until 1930 the USA Census used mulatto and other mixed race and multiracial terms and designations as seperate racial distinctions. And after 1930, they eliminated these seperate mixed race group categories to help facilitate the reeking racist odious one drop rule.
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