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Old 05-11-2007, 06:28 PM
 
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and they are not debatable parts in the Bible, they are clear in my home and in the Bible--sin is clear in teh bible no problems understanding them
The Bible has many interpretations, and yours isn't necessarily the only correct one... and there's no debating on that point.

 
Old 05-11-2007, 06:28 PM
 
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britt if you go back to page 7 i was addressing what scranton was saying at the bottom of page, i dont know what gizmo is referring to but I asked her before if she doesnt like to be respectful to others opinions(mine) then people do not address me.

gizmo, please do not address me if you cannot be respectful, i didnt attack you and ask you do not attack me or my opinions, you have your own so just state them. I am not here to change you and you certainly cant change me

so i ask you again to not address me
 
Old 05-11-2007, 06:30 PM
 
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the bible has one interpretation and that is Jesus', so there is no other interpretation for me so all others do not matter--as we are not called to interpret it to fit our fancy, but to believe in his word.

so if you interpret it that is good for you but it wont be what I would follow only Gods
 
Old 05-11-2007, 06:32 PM
 
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I impose my beliefs as a voting citizen like everyone else, other than that I impose my beliefs only on those in my home and the rules that govern there
 
Old 05-11-2007, 06:33 PM
 
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britt if you go back to page 7 i was addressing what scranton was saying at the bottom of page, i dont know what gizmo is referring to but I asked her before if she doesnt like to be respectful to others opinions(mine) then people do not address me.

gizmo, please do not address me if you cannot be respectful, i didnt attack you and ask you do not attack me or my opinions, you have your own so just state them. I am not here to change you and you certainly cant change me

so i ask you again to not address me
Once again, what are you talking about?? I never disrespected you or your beliefs, if you care to read my actual words. You're turning this into a personal argument, as you always do, and I'm getting sick of it. I've only debated the issue, whether or not you're understanding my posts. To get it back on topic, I'll once again summarize what I've been saying - YOU HAVE THE RIGHT TO FEEL AND BELIEVE WHATEVER YOU CHOOSE, BUT I DON'T THINK OPINIONS ARE WORTHY OF DICTATING LAW. Make sense??
 
Old 05-11-2007, 07:21 PM
 
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but I cannot judge and I cannot hold you accountable to God's law as you are not a believer.

I think their is a very strict warning in the bible bout judging those outside of christ or those who are not "his"...its actually pretty awful what will happen to you if you judge nonbelievers, however if its a fellow christian, then that is an entirely different story here..then you are suppose to approach in kindness and love, so many times then if they do not shape up, then your suppose to disown them, so in their shame they will come back to the fold, to me, that is harsh one reason why I left the church and question so many things anymore.
 
Old 05-11-2007, 07:22 PM
 
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If they will give gays the same 1,100 Federal special rights and benefits accorded to straight married couples, I don't care what they call it..
 
Old 05-11-2007, 07:26 PM
 
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What? where do you get all this nonsense that you post everywhere?
Did you not see this near some of the 'men lay with men' scriptures?

1 Timothy 2:9 {7} In like manner also, that women adorn themselves in modest apparel, with shamefacedness and sobriety; not with broided hair, or gold, or pearls, or costly array;
 
Old 05-11-2007, 07:32 PM
 
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Timothy is in the NEW Testament.
 
Old 05-11-2007, 07:41 PM
 
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Did you not see this near some of the 'men lay with men' scriptures?

1 Timothy 2:9 {7} In like manner also, that women adorn themselves in modest apparel, with shamefacedness and sobriety; not with broided hair, or gold, or pearls, or costly array;
I apologize. Now that I know what you are refering to I can comment. On the surface, you can make the claim you are making. However, look at what is being said. The commandment was given to women who were attempting to seduce men through their appearance. Either an attempt to convert non-believers or to seduce believers. To use it in the context that you are applying it, is incorrect. However, if a Christian woman was in fact trying to seduce a non believer through her apearance, then I would say something if it were in my place to do so. If it happened in my house or was one of my daughters doing it, you better believe I would stop it. The problem is that the Bible is written both in parables, and strict commands, and also in this instance speaks to a specific application but with an underlying principle and you have to learn to look at what is being said. That is one reason God's law is for believers and does not apply to non believers. In this case, it speaks to idolatry, as these women would be trying to put their beauty ahead of Christ as a way to bring people to Christ. Hence the reason they were told not to do it anymore.
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