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Old 11-20-2009, 11:17 AM
 
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I posted several sourced facts just one page ago regarding plans from THIS YEAR to allow over half of the undergrads to accept reduced tuition and fees due to income levels.

These facts were convienetly ignored so a select few can continue their partisan rhetoric.

Are any of you interested in facts?
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Old 11-20-2009, 11:34 AM
 
Location: Santa Barbara
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I posted several sourced facts just one page ago regarding plans from THIS YEAR to allow over half of the undergrads to accept reduced tuition and fees due to income levels.

These facts were convienetly ignored so a select few can continue their partisan rhetoric.

Are any of you interested in facts?
I read it, thanks for the link. It was from Jan 09 and the proposal hadn't been approved by the Regents at the time of the article. I will look to see if they approved it. I do know that several students who normally get their tuition covered by grants were hit with a bill right before classes started for the amount the grant no longer covered (in one students case, almost $1000 which for a student who isn't getting family help, this is a high bill). The budget issues also changed quit a bit between Jan 09 and the present.
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Old 11-20-2009, 11:35 AM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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Who's left to foot the bill? ......Cause they've all left...."fleeing"!

My my wingers can be drama queens.
You need a little dose of reality. Wisconsin has the exact same problem...

"Wisconsin had one of the five worst migration patterns in the United States from 2000 to 2006. Higher income individuals left Wisconsin. Individuals on the lowest rung of the economic ladder migrated to Wisconsin."

State of Wisconsin still a welfare magnet:
WISCONSIN STATE JOURNAL

Consequently, Wisconsin is one of the ten states in imminent economic peril.
Ten most troubled states in the U.S. - Nov. 11, 2009
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Old 11-20-2009, 11:37 AM
 
Location: New Jersey
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I don't understand what voting for Obama has to do with a hike in tuition rates.
It's easy, Obama voters want things for free, they are finding out that NOTHING is free. They vote for someone who they KNOW will raise taxes and spend into oblivion, but then get themselves into a tizzy when prices and taxes go up.
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Old 11-20-2009, 11:44 AM
 
Location: New Jersey
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Here's a radical proposal for many parents who use the public school system: Why don't they take the money that they save on their child's education expenses and apply that towards a college savings account for their child so their child would not be forced to take out costly loans, etc? It may take a little sacrifice but isn't their child's education worth it?
This is part of the problem today. Parents should NOT be footing the bill for their kids education. The kids need to earn it by getting scholarships or if they can't do that, then pay for it. By just handing them an education doesn't teach them a thing about responsibility, all you're doing is reinforcing the fact that things will be automatically handed to them. Now after stating this, there is nothing wrong with "helping" them out some, but not footing the entire bill.
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Old 11-20-2009, 11:46 AM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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These kids do have an alternative..go to community college for 2 years while working P/T and save money. If you're past the first two years, then take a year off to work and save money and then go back.

Or..go to school part time while working.

Not getting "free money" seems to be some people's only out. When given lemons..go make lemonade. Those that really want to get that education will find a way.
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Old 11-20-2009, 11:55 AM
 
Location: The Chatterdome in La La Land, CaliFUNia
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This is part of the problem today. Parents should NOT be footing the bill for their kids education. The kids need to earn it by getting scholarships or if they can't do that, then pay for it. By just handing them an education doesn't teach them a thing about responsibility, all you're doing is reinforcing the fact that things will be automatically handed to them. Now after stating this, there is nothing wrong with "helping" them out some, but not footing the entire bill.
Even with scholarships and part-time jobs, colleges and universities are out of reach financially for many students (including myself when I was in college) due to the rising costs in education. The fees charged by my state university when I graduated was DOUBLE the amount they were when I began college. If students were forced to be responsible for the entire cost of their education when they leave high school, we will have very few students going to college today. I'm not saying that they should not work or strive for scholarships, but that isn't enough to pay the education bill so let's be real here.
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Old 11-20-2009, 11:57 AM
 
Location: New Jersey
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Even with scholarships and part-time jobs, colleges and universities are out of reach financially for many students (including myself when I was in college) due to the rising costs in education. The fees charged by my state university when I graduated was DOUBLE the amount they were when I began college. If students were forced to be responsible for the entire cost of their education when they leave high school, we will have very few students going to college today. I'm not saying that they should not work or strive for scholarships, but that isn't enough to pay the education bill so let's be real here.
There needs to be another way. Having it paid for them is what caused the downfall of morality and created a me me me generation who is lazy as shyt.
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Old 11-20-2009, 12:07 PM
 
Location: The Chatterdome in La La Land, CaliFUNia
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There needs to be another way. Having it paid for them is what caused the downfall of morality and created a me me me generation who is lazy as shyt.
What about students in the past? Didn't parents always foot the bill for their child's college education 30-40 years ago as most college students then were traditional students that did not work while in college? The whole concept of students working while going to school part-time is more of a recent phenomenon of these past few decades.
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Old 11-20-2009, 12:11 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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What about students in the past? Didn't parents always foot the bill for their child's college education 30-40 years ago as most college students then were traditional students that did not work while in college? The whole concept of students working while going to school part-time is more of a recent phenomenon of these past few decades.
Well the current "parent" generation are boomers..you know the materialistic ones.

The previous generation before them were savers. The boomers may have had their education paid for by their "saver" parents.

Who really knows..me..my parents were "savers" but I told them to keep their money. I joined the military for 8 years and used the GI bill to go to school when I got out.
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