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Old 12-26-2009, 01:07 PM
 
Location: Everywhere and Nowhere
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Also why do you refuse to respond to the points that the only people who give two craps about something like this wouldn't be voting for Obama, or any Democrat to the left of Zell Miller......
I've answered everything so far. You may have to read down the thread a bit. However, if there's something I haven't please recap it here and I will do so.
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Old 12-26-2009, 01:08 PM
 
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Hey, we go Christmas Eve, but not Christmas night
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Old 12-26-2009, 01:15 PM
 
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I've answered everything so far. You may have to read down the thread a bit. However, if there's something I haven't please recap it here and I will do so.
the incumbent issue asked of you pages and pages ago.
and can you say sh#t when you have a mouthful?
the loss of no votes from anyone who wouldn't vote for obama to begin with.
can you say anything good about our president at all?
you start threads with a "gee what does everyone think of this I just don't know thats why I am asking" then later your agenda shows you to be a complete right wing conservative. why not just put it out there to begin with?
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Old 12-26-2009, 01:15 PM
 
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Hey, we go Christmas Eve, but not Christmas night
I don't think he went then either.
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Old 12-26-2009, 01:17 PM
 
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I don't think he went then either.















So? you didn't either.
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Old 12-26-2009, 01:17 PM
 
Location: Florida
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although Reagan didn't venture out to a local church service.
I'm heart-broken......
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Old 12-26-2009, 01:28 PM
 
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I don't think he went then either.
Good for him. More important things to do.
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Old 12-26-2009, 01:31 PM
 
Location: Lafayette, IN
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Because most Americans really liked Reagan as a person and associated him with strong, patriotic, Christian values. I'm not getting that feeling with Obama. People don't reallly like him as a person in the same way. This will become more apparent over time.
Pure, blind conjecture, unfounded too given that polls asking what people think of Obama as a person (rather than asking how he's doing as President) show that he is still pretty well liked.
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Old 12-26-2009, 01:34 PM
 
Location: Lafayette, IN
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I suppose you are right .. but being right won't excuse the fact that the electorial college is a dated, or rather obsolete method for selecting a President.
You gotta be more careful with your terminology; referring to something as 'obsolete' implies that it no longer matters. No matter what you think of the electoral college as an institution, it most certainly is not obsolete as it is the only thing that matters when it comes to presidential elections. I'm not a big fan of the electoral college myself, I would rather we do away with it entirely but I recognize that it is anything but obsolete. The electoral college determines who is president, period, and until that changes it won't be obsolete.
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Old 12-26-2009, 01:40 PM
 
Location: Lafayette, IN
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Lately I've heard him described by many as cold, aloof, and almost robotic. Not adjectives associated with a Reagan or an FDR. Much more like Kerry.
Wow, could you possibly get any more ridiculous? I'd launch into a lecture about representative sampling and how one draws inferences from it, but what's the point? The people you speak to are necessarily not representative of the US population as a whole so you cannot draw valid, generalizable inferences from them, period.

And even if people think Obama is 'cold and aloof,' which is not reflected in polling data, that really doesn't matter--remember that we overwhelmingly re-elected Nixon who was far colder and far more aloof. What matters for incumbents is how well they do their job; when their are wars and economic crises what matters for an incumbent president is how well the economy is doing and how well foreign affairs are going. Again, what is really going to matter in 2012 is (1) how well the economy is doing and (2) how well the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq are going. Those are going to be the two major issues upon which President Obama's reelection is going to hinge, barring some major incident that could occur between now and then.
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