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Old 02-07-2010, 07:25 AM
 
Location: New Kensington (Parnassus) ,Pa
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Originally Posted by pommysmommy View Post
Of course they know who fathered the children. They lie to get welfare and to let the father off the hook for child support.
It's called, working the system and I see it all the time in the area where I live.
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Old 02-07-2010, 07:31 AM
 
Location: New Kensington (Parnassus) ,Pa
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Just out of curiosity, how many in this thread are receiving some kind of government payment for something? Not just welfare, but ANY government payment, such as Social Security, VA, crop subsidies, tax credits for buying a new car or going "green." How many took advantage of "cash for clunkers?"

Come on...be honest.

I get VA and SS disability payments. How about y'all?
The real question should be , how many are cheating?
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Old 02-07-2010, 08:21 AM
 
Location: Texas
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The real question should be , how many are cheating?

The real issue is that so many of us DO get some kind of government check, yet we're all enthusiastic about cutting off someone elses.' After all, we DESERVE ours...right?
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Old 02-07-2010, 08:51 AM
 
Location: Sierra Vista, AZ
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I know of 5 people in my city.
Raise your hand if you know a banker or stock broker who makes over a million dollars for living off the inerest you pay every month. Probably not, they don't hang out with common folk.

I'll worry about them first
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Old 02-07-2010, 09:03 AM
 
Location: Vermont
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You need to multiply that.
In other words, you asked for evidence, you don't like the evidence, so you're telling the person who provided it that they must be wrong.

That's a good example of how conservatives think.
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Old 02-07-2010, 09:08 AM
 
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This is an example of how ridiculous the discussions regarding welfare fraud are. Your friend assumed these "crowds of people were hanging out on the stoops" waiting to receive their welfare check. This may or may not be an accurate assumption. However, to take the additional leap to conclude that these individuals were using illegal names, addresses, etc is crazy. There is no way that he could know this.

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A friend of mine who was a fire chief in a city said that they could tell distinctly what days the welfare checks were coming as there would be crowds of people hanging out on the stoops to collect them. Using illegal addresses, names etc etc etc and they would often see the same folks at different places collecting another welfare check.

Face facts, abuse is rampant is the welfare system.
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Old 02-07-2010, 09:09 AM
 
Location: Vermont
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Mean while, my wife, who has MRI and X-Rays to proove her spinal condition, took two years before she could get on disability while the neighbor got her disability within months. One deserves it and one is ripping off the government/taxpayers.
Are you sure? Maybe you should change your name to doctordave.

And then review all your neighbor's medical records, evaluate them in comparison to the Social Security disability regulations, the definition of substantial gainful activity, and prove the existence of jobs your neighbor is able to do on a sustained basis that exist in substantial numbers in the national economy.
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Old 02-07-2010, 09:09 AM
 
Location: Marion, IA
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Raise your hand if you know a banker or stock broker who makes over a million dollars for living off the inerest you pay every month. Probably not, they don't hang out with common folk.

I'll worry about them first
you're cool man
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Old 02-07-2010, 09:10 AM
 
Location: Vermont
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A friend of mine who was a fire chief in a city said that they could tell distinctly what days the welfare checks were coming as there would be crowds of people hanging out on the stoops to collect them. Using illegal addresses, names etc etc etc and they would often see the same folks at different places collecting another welfare check.

Face facts, abuse is rampant is the welfare system.
You know anecdote is not the singular of data, don't you?
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Old 02-07-2010, 09:12 AM
 
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I know of 5 people in my city.

Its not who cheated and lied to get qualified, who lied to continue to receive benefits. I have another one for you. How many people do you know not only cheated and lied to qualify for section 8, but continued to do so?
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