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Most women my age (mid-late 30's) don't play these games.
Me at age 51 and my friends all over age 50+ don't play these games, we don't have the time, the patience, or the energy and I never did play those stupid games; what is the point really?
Why does it have to be all about women? A relationshi* ( I mean, relationship) is union between 2 people but yet a man has to invest considerable more time and money in a woman's life just for her to stick around and prove that he's a 'good' man.
It so unfair that it's not even worth it to date or get married anymore. What exactly do men get out of dating when fundamentally they are reduced to servants.
Dump her. Pure manipulation on this woman's part. My wife used to try this on me, and she dropped it after a while when she realized that I really could not read her mind. Why women think this, I have no idea?
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I agree the guy should be paying attention, but I don't want a girl who is never firm in saying what she wants. None of this passive 'whatever you want to do' meaning, I actually want it this, but I'm not assertive enough to say so, so I expect you to be the man and take responsibility for the decision and say it for me.
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Originally Posted by Mightyqueen801
Yes, woman expect this because WE can read minds and don't understand why you can't. Too many mothers don't teach their daughters that if it's got a penis, it simply can't read minds. The thought process is constantly traveling from the big head to the little head and so the capacity for understanding and retainage just isn't the same as it is in females. OK, so that last part isn't exactly scientific but I had fun writing it.
Some of it can be mitigated. The guy whose girlfriend always drinks the same thing SHOULD know what his girlfriend drinks. That's not mind-reading. That's paying attention, and it doesn't take an Einstein to realize that a woman is going to be very happy if she knows that a guy pays attention to the small details that are ALL ABOUT HER.
The one who expected the guy to figure out which thing she'd rather do when she told HIM to decide is just playing games, though. No answer would have been the correct one in that case.
But, women do have to understand that most men just don't pick up on signals and non-verbal clues the way women do.
I remember reading an article about this. Women and men were shown about a dozen photos of the same woman gradually becoming sadder and sadder until at the end she is obviously sobbing with tears rolling down her face. They were asked to look at the photos and determine at what point it became obvious that the woman was distressed about something. Most women could see it by the third or fourth photo. Most men couldn't see that anything was wrong until the last few.
Yeah women do tend to pay more attention to things like that, but I think many men make this excuse that they 'just can't read women's minds' because they're too lazy to figure it out.
All socializing involves a bit of 'mind reading', most of it isn't rocket science...
But like I said, saying one thing and meaning another...that is playing games, and unless you like playing games don't put up with that. It shows they see you as someone who can be manipulated, not as a partner to be loved, but someone they can take advantage of.
I agree the guy should be paying attention, but I don't want a girl who is never firm in saying what she wants. None of this passive 'whatever you want to do' meaning, I actually want it this, but I'm not assertive enough to say so, so I expect you to be the man and take responsibility for the decision and say it for me.
I learned this lesson recently. I always thought I was being agreeable by saying "whatever you want to do is fine with me", because it was fine...but I didn't realize that I may come across as wish-washy or like I never had an opinion or cared about where we ate dinner or what movie we saw, for example. I have to consciously make sure to speak up and not always say "whatever's fine" because I don't want it to seem like I'm always deferring to someone else and don't have my own opinions.
Ok, I've been wondering this for quite some time now and I would like other guy's opinions. Have you ever felt that females expect you to read their mind?
I've been seeing this girl for about two weeks now and every time I'm with her, I ask what she wants to do and she gives says something like "well we could do this or we can go here and do this. You pick." So I'm like ok, and I choose what sounds like fun to me and then she gets ticked off because I obviously couldn't read her mind and pick the one that she wanted to do.
You've got to be kidding me.
And then the other day my friend, his girlfriend, and I went to the movies (yes it was a little awkward) and she asked him to go get her a drink and then complained when he asked her what she wanted. "Wow, you seriously don't know what I want to drink? What do I always get?"
ARE YOU KIDDING ME?! SORRY WOMAN I FORGOT IT WAS THE DUTY OF US MALES TO REMEMBER EVERY DETAIL OF YOUR LIFE.
Thank God I'm not in a committed relationship.
Or when they rely on sending cute indirect messages, use body language, send someone to tell you something, etc. right? Then you are supposed to know what they are trying to say.
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