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Old 04-20-2012, 08:06 AM
 
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Ambition not in the sense making a lot of money or attaining power but ambitious in putting forth effort in maintaining a decent income, perusing and completing their goals and putting forth effort in their own life and relationships.

Perhaps there is a better definition. Im not sure this is what you mean by ambitious. I guess what is important to me is the opposite of laziness, of someone who doesn’t try to reach their potential. Who wont put forth the effort to improve their character, situation or life in general.
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Old 04-20-2012, 08:08 AM
 
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All things are relative, by the way. One of my best friends is a cabinet maker. But he is one helluva cabinet maker. The man makes beautiful cabinets, as in works of art, the result of decades spent improving his craft. I have a great deal more respect for him than I would for a lawyer who chases ambulances or a doctor who can't diagnose his way out of a paper bag.
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Old 04-20-2012, 08:09 AM
 
Location: Huntersville/Charlotte, NC and Washington, DC
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Ambition to me equates with self absorbed, keeping up with the Jones', arrogant and money-driven. None of these traits are attractive to me. I prefer a man who is more philosophical about life, who takes time to just be, someone who isn't caught up with the society-approved working yourself to death mentality.

Work is work, it's a way to make money to do the things you love doing whether it's traveling or a hobby or philanthropic work. There is more to life than striving for status.
I totally agree.

I got my degree mainly so I can get a job that pays well and allows a lot of vacation time so I can pursue my big hobby, urban photography. It is not going to kill me to just be a GS-7 admin guy in DC for the rest of my life provided I make enough to pay bills. However, I have a goal to photograph every big city in the US and go overseas which I want to achieve.

I would hope to find a mate while having a solid job is important, it is not the end all be all in her life.
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Old 04-20-2012, 08:12 AM
 
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I totally agree.

I got my degree mainly so I can get a job that pays well and allows a lot of vacation time so I can pursue my big hobby, urban photography. It is not going to kill me to just be a GS-7 admin guy in DC for the rest of my life provided I make enough to pay bills. However, I have a goal to photograph every big city in the US and go overseas which I want to achieve.

I would hope to find a mate while having a solid job is important, it is not the end all be all in her life.
Exactly! I am going to grad school so I can move up in my field, work from home and start horse back riding (my not so cheap passion I have been doing since I was 6). That is my goal in making money. Not to keep up with the Jonses, but to pursue my real passion.

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Old 04-20-2012, 08:16 AM
 
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Ambition is more important to me than size of wallet and current employment. I'd take an ambitious poor guy (assuming that his ambition isn't merely reflected in words but in actions as well) over an unambitious guy with a comfortable job any day. An ambitious person can only go up up up in life.
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Old 04-20-2012, 08:17 AM
 
Location: Blah
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The worst is people who b*tch and moan constantly about their jobs and don't do anything to fix it. It's okay if you're content working at McDonalds making fries, just be the best dam* fry maker you can be.
Amen!!

I'm out job hunting the first time my job does me wrong or I'm bored etc.

Anyhow, You really need to get you stuff straight before trying to date. No self respecting woman wants to take on a basket case. They want someone who is able to take care of them selves an even one day be able to support a wife etc. If you don't like your job, find a new one, if you're finding school difficult, switch degree plans.
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Old 04-20-2012, 08:24 AM
 
Location: Austin
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Too much ambition in a man can be a very bad thing. I was with one of these men, and his ambitions precluded my dreams and goals. He was the type who insisted that I follow him all over the place for his career, and that's a no-go for me. Needless to say, he was a very big dollar chaser. Money and status was more important to him than anything else.

Pass.

Ambition to my mind means simply aspiring to having a good quality of life and being happy with one's chosen career. My S.O. doesn't think of himself in terms of "ambitious," but he has a good, well-paying job that he enjoys, and he has a lot of longevity at the same company. It doesn't matter to him if he gets transferred to the top of the line.

What's more important to me is that he has passions outside of the workplace. Eventually, we all retire. If someone has passions and goals for other things, that's what keeps you happy in your golden years.
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Old 04-20-2012, 08:30 AM
 
Location: Grosse Ile Michigan
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My wife said that ambition was the most important trait in a man to her and her friends in college. Ambition not meaning workaholic problems, but someone with a vision of where they ar going, what they want to do and working to get there. Not someone just floating along with no direction or goals.

I have a friend who is single, in great shape, nice looking and very perosnable yet he has trouble finding dates. My wife says it is because he has no ambition. He is basically a low paid drone worker and has no interest in doing anything else. He makes enough t pay the bills and that is fine. No goals or dreams, just wants to stay where he is.

My daughters (20) frequently complain that most guys seem to have no ombition at all and that is not attractive.
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Old 04-20-2012, 08:42 AM
 
Location: Blah
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The worst is people who b*tch and moan constantly about their jobs and don't do anything to fix it. It's okay if you're content working at McDonalds making fries, just be the best dam* fry maker you can be.
Amen!!

I'm out job hunting the first time my job does me wrong or I'm bored etc.

Anyhow, You really need to get you stuff straight before trying to date. No self respecting woman wants to take on a basket case. If you don't like your job, find a new one, if you're finding school difficult, switch degree plans.
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Old 04-20-2012, 08:48 AM
 
Location: Geauga County, Ohio
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Well, as I've said before, I married my high school sweetheart, after reuniting after a 5 year haitus.

I was impressed with him in high school for his ambition, and when we re-connected in '01, I was impressed with what he had done with it. Not because I'm a golddigger, but because I knew it meant he could stick to something and that is a positive quality.
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