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yes they do and so do women. Its called "fashion". (" I want my girl wearing this", "Real men wear that", "i prefer to see men wearing this or that", "id leave my wife if she ever wore that")
I believe on the whole that most men do objectify women to an extent (and women do men, but not to the same extent)...that a woman's value, today in the 21st century, is still based on physical attributes to a greater extent than a man's. Call it biology, call it patriarchy, call it whatever. Obviously, man men select on this basis, so women feel pressured to comply...
my first question then is, do most women feel oppressed by these restrictions? Do some revel in their role as a woman - to be desired.etc? I suppose for most it's a bit of both?
On one hand many women complain about men objectifying women - yet, of course, many women are feeding this, doing it to themselves. They value other women on the basis of looks.etc too..like the immature types might want to be friends with hot, popular women - a certain subset of women, but a mainstream subset nonetheless. Women as a whole still seem so preoccupied with looks. If you tell her she's ugly, it's basically the same as telling her she's a worthless human being. I suppose it's no one's fault: men are wired to like a pretty face, nice breasts or whatever, so maybe it's natural for women to want to play that up, although I think it's definitely gone further than what is natural.
The main question is, how hard is it to break out of this? To say, I don't care what men like or not like, I'm just going to be myself and not try to please them? How many women are really like this? Not to say you don't try to look good and attractive - well all want to be attractive - but how hard it is to completely divorce yourself from these expectations, and truly not have to value yourself on how you look?
It's doable and they make it very easy. I'd go as far as to say practically drive some women to this point.
I believe on the whole that most men do objectify women to an extent (and women do men, but not to the same extent)...that a woman's value, today in the 21st century, is still based on physical attributes to a greater extent than a man's. Call it biology, call it patriarchy, call it whatever. Obviously, man men select on this basis, so women feel pressured to comply...
my first question then is, do most women feel oppressed by these restrictions? Do some revel in their role as a woman - to be desired.etc? I suppose for most it's a bit of both?
On one hand many women complain about men objectifying women - yet, of course, many women are feeding this, doing it to themselves. They value other women on the basis of looks.etc too..like the immature types might want to be friends with hot, popular women - a certain subset of women, but a mainstream subset nonetheless. Women as a whole still seem so preoccupied with looks. If you tell her she's ugly, it's basically the same as telling her she's a worthless human being. I suppose it's no one's fault: men are wired to like a pretty face, nice breasts or whatever, so maybe it's natural for women to want to play that up, although I think it's definitely gone further than what is natural.
The main question is, how hard is it to break out of this? To say, I don't care what men like or not like, I'm just going to be myself and not try to please them? How many women are really like this? Not to say you don't try to look good and attractive - well all want to be attractive - but how hard it is to completely divorce yourself from these expectations, and truly not have to value yourself on how you look?
i've never heard a woman admit that she wants to be objectified.
yet, i routinely see women whose main goal is to be treated as an appealing sex object.
so like i say, the common sense thing to do, is ignore what people say, and watch what they do.
i've never heard a woman admit that she wants to be objectified.
yet, i routinely see women whose main goal is to be treated as an appealing sex object.
so like i say, the common sense thing to do, is ignore what people say, and watch what they do.
Because women are primarily judged on their looks and sex appeal. Many men won't even talk to a woman in a social situation unless he already knows her, or he thinks she's sexy enough to sleep with.
I've sat in a bar or restaurant and had amazing conversations with men, where we have a ton in common and they won't hesitate to excuse themselves to go talk to the pretty blonde in the low cut shirt, effectively ignoring me for the rest of the night.
Now that I'm getting older and going to different venues this is lessening, bu it still happens here and there.
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Because women are primarily judged on their looks and sex appeal. Many men won't even talk to a woman in a social situation unless he already knows her, or he thinks she's sexy enough to sleep with.
I've sat in a bar or restaurant and had amazing conversations with men, where we have a ton in common and they won't hesitate to excuse themselves to go talk to the pretty blonde in the low cut shirt, effectively ignoring me for the rest of the night.
Now that I'm getting older and going to different venues this is lessening, bu it still happens here and there.
Yes, that's the sad fact of it. I suppose women who don't 'play the game' get ignored by the majority so have less chances.
It's also intimidating for many men to approach women who are strangers in social situations.
Because women are primarily judged on their looks and sex appeal.
Do other women judge you on your looks and sex appeal? Or is this just men?
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