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First dates are a pain in the ass on the guy. The women just sit back and do absolutely nothing, and get to judge the guy while they put in 0 effort. Thinking about it, it's kind of annoying and rather demeaning.
At the end of the day though, most dates end up being a good time.. even if I don't ever feel like going.
The key to having them be fun, is just making them relaxed, cheap and some sort of activity. The worse off you are with conversation, the more necessary an activity is over something like a restaurant or bar.
I'm a very outgoing guy, and love talking to people.. and even I failed a coffee shop date once. I think I hated it more than she did though.. but she was so hot.
First dates are a pain in the ass on the guy. The women just sit back and do absolutely nothing, and get to judge the guy while they put in 0 effort. Thinking about it, it's kind of annoying and rather demeaning.
At the end of the day though, most dates end up being a good time.. even if I don't ever feel like going.
The key to having them be fun, is just making them relaxed, cheap and some sort of activity. The worse off you are with conversation, the more necessary an activity is over something like a restaurant or bar.
I'm a very outgoing guy, and love talking to people.. and even I failed a coffee shop date once. I think I hated it more than she did though.. but she was so hot.
Maybe you should date different women.
I always put in effort AND pay my own way (and often for the entire date) when I go out. I've never just sat back and done absolutely nothing on a first date.
I'm not terrible, I just find it hard to find stuff to talk about one-on-one.
I thought it was a flaw in me at first, eventually I realized this is true for me for non-dates too, with people I know. Even people I know well.
I think people need to calm down with the conversation thing. Conversation is overrated. Conversation isn't going to feed your kids or guide them, or be good in bed with your wife, or take her out dancing, or fix the water heater. There's so much damned more to a relationship/marriage.
Hell it's a pop culture humorous meme that after 2 years of marriage, you don't have ***** to say to your spouse. Chris Rock even has a bit where he says "After that long you're tired of what they have to say, you've heard all their stories."
If I'm dating a girl, it's her job to gab if she needs it so badly. I'm the man, I'm not talkative. That, or talk about something scientific where I could then go on for hours. Or just shut up and lets go ballroom/latin dancing.
Couples are not there to entertain each other. When they talk they should do it to connect with each other, not to entertain each other, and being connected (in the right away) is actually extremely important to maintaining a healthy relationship. A lot of people make the mistake of not acknowledging this or undervaluing it and then end up broken up and don't know why.
I'm actually a pretty good 1st date, I'm really good at small talk, drawing people out of their shell, and working a room at parties. Unfortunately, this means I get pressed into service for a lot of friends when they need a wedding date or someone to bring to the boss's dinner party.
7 unpleasant dates before fun begins sounds horrendous
Maybe not 7 unpleasant dates but it definitely takes around that many dates until I break out of my shell and become fully uncomfortable around the girl.
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