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Old 04-29-2013, 12:24 AM
 
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Sometimes I feel as if I could just fast forward to the 7th or 8th date when the girl becomes more comfortable around me and realizes that I'm not so bad, then I'd be better off. But because I'm such a horrifying first date I never make it to the 7th or 8th date. The girl just ignores me after the first/second date.
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Old 04-29-2013, 01:12 AM
 
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What is your problem with your first dates that send women packing?
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Old 04-29-2013, 05:28 AM
 
Location: Baltimore, MD
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The only way I would ever make it to a "7th or 8th" date is if we were in a relationship.

FWIW I haven't had a 2nd date with anyone since I broke up with my ex in June, 2007. Mutual consenus is the reason that most dates do not work out.

Stop being so hard on yourself, OP.
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Old 04-29-2013, 06:01 AM
 
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Simon, what steps are you taking in your real life to improve? Are you doing any kind of self/personal development to make yourself feel better and to make yourself more marketable? In order to get to date 7 -8 you gotta at least be interesting in one and two.

Are you working on your social skills?
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Old 04-29-2013, 07:03 AM
 
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Groom/dress properly.

Never shake hands with a girl on a date. Give her a hug and kiss on the cheek.

Come with energy and confidence.

Be attentive to her, actually listen to what she says.

Find commonalities and speak about them, but don't milk it.

Tease her. This is very important, if you don't know how to tease her properly, you're not going to make it.

At the end of the date don't push anything if you're looking for a long-term, serious LTR. Another hug and kiss on the cheek should do the trick. Kiss on lips only if she is comfortable with that (like you're standing close to her and her face is angled so you can lean in).
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Old 04-29-2013, 07:15 AM
 
Location: IN A COOKIE JAR
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Groom/dress properly.

Never shake hands with a girl on a date. Give her a hug and kiss on the cheek.

Come with energy and confidence.

Be attentive to her, actually listen to what she says.

Find commonalities and speak about them, but don't milk it.

Tease her. This is very important, if you don't know how to tease her properly, you're not going to make it.

At the end of the date don't push anything if you're looking for a long-term, serious LTR. Another hug and kiss on the cheek should do the trick. Kiss on lips only if she is comfortable with that (like you're standing close to her and her face is angled so you can lean in).
Good advice OP!!!
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Old 04-29-2013, 07:18 AM
 
Location: NY
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What makes you such a "horrifying" first date?

Once identified, make some changes.
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Old 04-29-2013, 08:08 AM
 
Location: Glasgow, uk
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I have honestly never had a proper first data but I think I'd be a pretty awful one lol I talk too much when I get nervous and can be clumsy
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Old 04-29-2013, 08:31 AM
 
Location: Corydon, IN
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I think good first dates depend on both people, not just one.

A BAD first date can be created by one, but a GOOD first date depends on both.


And I still want to know what Simon is doing that creates such a bad first impression.
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Old 04-29-2013, 08:39 AM
 
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OP, I am BEYOND socially awkward. "Acquired taste" is the best way to describe me. However, if someone isn't going to at least find me pleasurable company on the first date, they're not going to be able to tolerate my quirks over the long term.

That said, 7 or 8 dates? At that point, I consider myself to be in an established relationship of some kind, whether it's exclusive or not. You gotta bring your game early on. What exactly is holding you back? And how are you meeting these women?
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