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Read back to what I have been saying. Women putting no effort and simply pulling their pants down and bending over is just fine but men wouldn't complain if women put some effort to it. Did you understand my food example or not?
I understand that you are not like most men but think that you speak for most men. You are convinced that the things that you enjoy are what other men enjoy.
I understand that you are not like most men but think that you speak for most men. You are convinced that the things that you enjoy are what other men enjoy.
Nope. No effort is what they are fine with, that's ok. I was simply suggesting that if women put a bit more effort their man wouldn't necessarily complain about it.
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My respect for my husband has nothing to do with this forum, conservativeness, shyness, etc.
I said that your decision to NOT share that or whatever you consider too private, is respected. That is, I will not ask you about it.
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Please stop trying to call me a coward in your normal passive aggressive manner. Just move on.
Please stop putting words in my mouth. I nicely said I respect your decision to not share whatever you feel like not sharing and how finding OTHERS all of a sudden being to shy is a bit ironic after all the things that have already been talked and joked about in this forum. That’s all.
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And either women have been creative and put effort into having sex with you - which would mean that women do do such things - or they haven't - in which case I understand you feeling that they do not.
Yup. But I am not assuming. Women have been pretty straight already expressing how they don’t put effort to it because it is not needed. That’s all.
Again, none of those things are seductive. The thread is about seduction. I agreed pages ago that people should make special efforts with one another.
Last night I asked my husband if he wanted to go to a comedy club on Saturday. He did, so I bought tickets starring a comedian I knew he liked, and I will take him out for sushi beforehand. His sister will have the kids overnight. Oh yeah! Having no kids around is the equivalent of ChemistryGuy's lady locking the dogs in the basement.
The sushi and show are not seduction, in that they will do nothing to get my husband in a sexual frame of mind. Knowing the children will be gone, yes. If I "accidentally" lean toward to get something out of my purse so that he sees down my shirt, yes. Caressing him during dinner or squeezing his thigh during the show, yes. Murmuring in his ear to take me home and do XYZ, yes.
Maybe just accept that not every man has the same turnons as you? The effort and creativity that I exert are not particularly time-consuming, but you keep returning to elaborate planning.
Last night I asked my husband if he wanted to go to a comedy club on Saturday. He did, so I bought tickets starring a comedian I knew he liked, and I will take him out for sushi beforehand. His sister will have the kids overnight. Oh yeah! Having no kids around is the equivalent of ChemistryGuy's lady locking the dogs in the basement
Sounds like fun. Hahaha! No kids yet but I can imagine.
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The sushi and show are not seduction, in that they will do nothing to get my husband in a sexual frame of mind. Knowing the children will be gone, yes. If I "accidentally" lean toward to get something out of my purse so that he sees down my shirt, yes. Caressing him during dinner or squeezing his thigh during the show, yes. Murmuring in his ear to take me home and do XYZ, yes.
There you go! That is what I was talking about which many didn’t seem to appreciate in this thread. I also mentioned something similar in my case of what me and my girl do. I can imagine that in your case, unlike many in this thread, it’s not always just “bend over and that’s it”.
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Maybe just accept that not every man has the same turnons as you? The effort and creativity that I exert are not particularly time-consuming, but you keep returning to elaborate planning.
If we go back I am not saying all men have the same turn ons. I was actually directing my message to women asking them if they have considered ALSO putting a bit more effort and creativity other than just simply pulling the pants down and bending over. Which they simply disagreed. But yeah, not everybody is the same. There are some women who do more than just bending over and some guys that like variety I guess. Personally, I like the whole "just bend over" AS WELL AS variety that I have already mentioned.
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