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There is nothing wrong about a person who doesn't do well in the dating pool.... no body is perfect.
On the flip side there have been celebrities that visit escorts... doubt game is their problem
There are n number of reasons....
Have to agree with this. I was always on the more conservative side. But I don't see the issue with anyone who visits sex workers. Provided they aren't abusive.
Maybe they go because they like charisma. But so what? Not everyone is gonna be smooth, a social butterfly where tons of attractive people lined up to date them, even if they aren't bad people. Some people are great. They just don't have that charisma to draw in tons of suitors. Then some men use them because it's easier. Cuts out the middle man of courting a woman.
But as much as men may be shamed for it. It's possibly worse with women who use male sex workers. Now this is very rare, or may seem such because it's really kept under wraps, but does happen. And women may be shamed even more than men. But reasons men may use them can apply to women as well. Some people, regardless of gender have their reasons.
But some will always see it as pathetic, gross, or dehumanizing. Best to try training yourself not to care. Because whomever is using them is not the 1st, and won't be the last. And some very attractive men use them as well. They exist for a reason. Even porn has a negative stigma attached, with people thinking "If they're getting laid, they don't need porn."
So really, anything can be made to look pathetic if people are trying hard enough. Sex-wise
Masturbation
Porn
Visiting Sex Workers
etc.
I have heard people talk badly of all of these things, thinking only pathetic people engage in them. So it's always best to just do you, and let others have their opinions.
I've paid for hookers before. All of these occurrences happened outside of the US, when I was traveling with friends, and we just wanted to have a good time with a REALLY hot girl (one that we may not attract in the US without a ton of effort). Never caught an STD, it wasn't about not being able to get laid, and it has no reflection on my masculinity.
In any event, a friend said something that applies here: "All women cost something. Hookers cost money. Real women cost both money and time." Very true.
None of the working girls I know would consider BBFS for any reason. Protection of their health is an absolutely must for future earnings; many have family to support and cannot risk it At the very least, it makes the maintenance of hygiene and cleanup easy from one client to the next. If they consider what they do a business, then risking that business for a little more extra on top of the standard fee makes zero sense. Even the ones that were my FWB wouldn't allow it...
The only working girls that I have met that admit to that type of service are generally desperate.. very desperate... and I mean supporting a habit type. I personally would steer clear.
I'm not saying you are not telling the truth... just saying that there is a bit of perspective necessary.
PS> We've had a bunch of threads about prostitutes (pro/cons "why I see them" etc). I think the OP wanted to discuss along the lines of why it is viewed a shameful.
None of the working girls I know would consider BBFS for any reason. Protection of their health is an absolutely must for future earnings; many have family to support and cannot risk it At the very least, it makes the maintenance of hygiene and cleanup easy from one client to the next. If they consider what they do a business, then risking that business for a little more extra on top of the standard fee makes zero sense. Even the ones that were my FWB wouldn't allow it...
The only working girls that I have met that admit to that type of service are generally desperate.. very desperate... and I mean supporting a habit type. I personally would steer clear.
I'm not saying you are not telling the truth... just saying that there is a bit of perspective necessary.
It seems like you know a lot of hookers very personally.
It seems like you know a lot of hookers very personally.
Yes I do. For me, they are my friends that I care for... I've seen both sides of the lives these women lead. Feel free to search my past posts to get an idea. It was another life for me... but it still a part of who I am and still frames my views.
Many people would like to shame men for their partaking of (or desire to partake of) escort services. They may try to say such things as the guy is "too lame" to get a woman for free or that he is simply using women for sex but... if many men are honest with themselves, the modern dating game (at least in "Western" society) is simply not good for a lot of men.
Despite how decent looking or kind-hearted some guys might be, they simply aren't attractive to the women who look for all kind of stupid attributes that certain guys may not have.
So instead of those men going through hell and high water trying to be something they aren't just to attract the myriad of superficial women who dwell in society, why wouldn't they find it more appealing to just deal with escorts and be done with it?
To be sure, "many people" in America would like to shame men for using escort services. I guess the women's lobby has done a good job.
Think about it though. Most women are all about extracting money from men, one way or the other. Whether it's through marriage, dating, or as "sugar babies," the general scheme of things is that the man pays. Try dressing up in shabby clothes and driving around in a rusty Fort Pinto and see how many women you attract. Then, for the next part of the experiment, dress well and rent a Porsche for a week. Women will be crawling all over you.
Most of the rest of the world isn't so hung up on sex and isn't so Puritanical. Maybe someday, America will catch up.
To be sure, "many people" in America would like to shame men for using escort services. I guess the women's lobby has done a good job.
Think about it though. Most women are all about extracting money from men, one way or the other. Whether it's through marriage, dating, or as "sugar babies," the general scheme of things is that the man pays. Try dressing up in shabby clothes and driving around in a rusty Fort Pinto and see how many women you attract. Then, for the next part of the experiment, dress well and rent a Porsche for a week. Women will be crawling all over you.
Most of the rest of the world isn't so hung up on sex and isn't so Puritanical. Maybe someday, America will catch up.
How lame is that, I mean when you lay it out and really think about it... a woman wouldn't be with me unless I paid her money........ she wouldn't be wilth me unless I paid her money.....
Think about that when you're pounding your chest about how macho you are.... she wouldn't be there unless you paid her.....
Let that resonate with our local chest thumpers a bit.....
The older I get, the more I believe lying to get sex is much worse.
By lying I mean pretending to be interested in a woman until you get sex once or for a few times than disappear from the earth. Tons of guys do this all the time. 'Pretend' to be interested in the beginning till they finally do it. Pump and dump. Nothing to be proud of either.
A lot of times a guy knows if the girl is just a casual FWB but strings along a girl for the ride. That's B.S. behavior and much worse than paying for an escort imho.
Many people would like to shame men for their partaking of (or desire to partake of) escort services.
I don't think it's as much shaming as it is a social and religious taboo.
Society expects a man to settle down with one woman and raise a family rather than going out and having sex with thousands of women on demand. The purpose of sex is pro-creation after all.
However yes... part of the driving reasons for shaming is social and religion.
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