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Old 02-11-2016, 12:36 PM
 
Location: RI, MA, VT, WI, IL, CA, IN (that one sucked), KY
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What if they know how to do all of that stuff, but live with their parents?.

Then they're still not independent.
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Old 02-11-2016, 12:42 PM
 
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I personally can see why women have these views given society and culture. For one thing, it is not just on men, it is on people. It is important to be able to take care of yourself, especially if you are a man. If you are at the age where you should at least have some form of independence, then you better have some form of independence whether it is holding a roof over your head or at least contributing to some bills.

The whole thing boils down to taking care of yourself. The better you are at taking care of yourself, the better your chances are to find someone who is levelheaded.

It is very rare for an adult to want to carry another adult. I personally have a harder time finding an adult woman who is willing to carry an adult male.

In relationships, you had better bring something to the table, this goes for both genders.
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Old 02-11-2016, 12:44 PM
 
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Then they're still not independent.
But then we must clarify. Perhaps the better phrase is living OFF of their parents. Because living with parents could mean anything. For example, there are men who live with their parents because they are taking care of them for various reasons, maybe they are sick, disabled...
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Old 02-11-2016, 12:48 PM
 
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But then we must clarify. Perhaps the better phrase is living OFF of their parents. Because living with parents could mean anything. For example, there are men who live with their parents because they are taking care of them for various reasons, maybe they are sick, disabled...

By "Living Off" I am assuming you mean mooch? if the adult contributes to household bills (Cable, Satellite, Internet, Groceries) and pays their own bills, while doing chores, laundry, making dinner some nights, helping around the house in general would you still call them a mooch?
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Old 02-11-2016, 12:51 PM
 
Location: RI, MA, VT, WI, IL, CA, IN (that one sucked), KY
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But then we must clarify. Perhaps the better phrase is living OFF of their parents. Because living with parents could mean anything. For example, there are men who live with their parents because they are taking care of them for various reasons, maybe they are sick, disabled...

Yeah, we've already acknowledged that's a big difference.

But I got to be honest, if I lived at home to care for my mother (I currently live a few towns over and pop over a few times a week, thankfully not like last year where I was shoveling every day), then I really think I'd have no business dating as caregiving would be taking my energy and money. Just slightly different than if I was unemployed: I'd have no business dating since I had no money and all my energy would be put into a job search.
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Old 02-11-2016, 02:00 PM
 
Location: In the bee-loud glade
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Most of the threads where someone is stressed financially apply are disproportionately aimed at men. I get that to a certain extent. Some is a holdover from an earlier time, and some is due to lingering inequalities. If a woman is interested in LT and especially if she wants me point, her interest in a man being stable financially makes lots of sense.


Having said that, expecting a man to not live with his parents at 35 is not setting the bar very high, especially if he's never moved out. But in any case and for whatever compelling reason he may be living with the folks, I'm not sure any dating other than the most casual makes any sense, for him. More would just distract from what really should be his priorities, and letting himself be distracted would be another indication that he's not doing grown up very well.
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Old 02-12-2016, 12:11 PM
 
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By "Living Off" I am assuming you mean mooch? if the adult contributes to household bills (Cable, Satellite, Internet, Groceries) and pays their own bills, while doing chores, laundry, making dinner some nights, helping around the house in general would you still call them a mooch?
Of course not.

It's all about pulling your own weight so to speak.
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Old 02-12-2016, 12:12 PM
 
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Yeah, we've already acknowledged that's a big difference.

But I got to be honest, if I lived at home to care for my mother (I currently live a few towns over and pop over a few times a week, thankfully not like last year where I was shoveling every day), then I really think I'd have no business dating as caregiving would be taking my energy and money. Just slightly different than if I was unemployed: I'd have no business dating since I had no money and all my energy would be put into a job search.
Yeah, it depends...
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Old 02-12-2016, 04:26 PM
 
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I ask you this, what if the guy has no intention of ever getting married or wanting children and does not want to share a space with a significant other.
Then why is he dating?

I believe in dating for a purpose.
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Old 02-13-2016, 10:11 AM
 
Location: Moose Jaw, in between the Moose's butt and nose.
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Most of the threads where someone is stressed financially apply are disproportionately aimed at men. I get that to a certain extent. Some is a holdover from an earlier time, and some is due to lingering inequalities. If a woman is interested in LT and especially if she wants me point, her interest in a man being stable financially makes lots of sense.


Having said that, expecting a man to not live with his parents at 35 is not setting the bar very high, especially if he's never moved out. But in any case and for whatever compelling reason he may be living with the folks, I'm not sure any dating other than the most casual makes any sense, for him. More would just distract from what really should be his priorities, and letting himself be distracted would be another indication that he's not doing grown up very well.
Missed the OP point, not really talking about living with parents. Talking about must have your own place, to date you, even in places like SF and NYC
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