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Old 05-28-2016, 02:59 PM
 
Location: The point of no return, er, NorCal
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I live just outside of Chicago, Illinois.


I didn't state that the women I notice the guys with all have kids but I do see a good amount of non-fat, 6'+ tall guys with women who are considerably overweight around here.


The bald guys that I see with women mostly look to be in their 50's and 60's.
And... why does it matter to you who these men date or marry? Why do you assume these men share the same preferences as you? Are you under the assumption that attractive people are inherently drawn to the same types of people. So what if their partners don't meet your preferred body type. If you're not dating them then it's a non-issue.

This is just as silly as me saying "I see a good amount of guys with nice teeth and smiles with women who don't have nice smiles." I mean, why would another person's preference or attraction to another person affect me? Why would I care? I don't. Nor do I assume that just because I like nice teeth and smiles that everyone else prefers the same. So you have a preference for HWP women. I have a preference for nice smiles. I don't expect others to share my preferences, nor do I see the point in being bitter and negative about something that doesn't concern me.
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Old 05-28-2016, 03:00 PM
 
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I sure haven't seen this in the places I've lived (Nor Cal, So Cal, NC, VA, PNW, and GA). Gorgeous men with plain Janes, overweight women or single mothers? Rarely do I see this. There are times I see very attractive women with much less attractive men, but even that's not something I see very often.
Again, I'm not gay (not that there's anything wrong with that before I'm called homophobic) but it should be obvious that there are a lot more fit-looking men around than fit-looking women in general.
I'm not saying that the guys are great-looking but they aren't overweight, they're pretty tall and they have a full head of hair. Unfortunately it looks like a lot of the women around here have let themselves go especially the white women.
Regarding single mothers, there is obviously no way for me to tell whether the women are single mothers even if there are kids with the couple so I have no idea whether the couple had the kids together or if they're from another relationship.


All I know is that the 5 or so women that I know who were single mothers are all seeing new men. Even one who had 3 kids with another guy.
Personally, I might make an exception for a woman who has 1 kid but I could never date a woman who has more than 1 kid that isn't my own.
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Old 05-28-2016, 03:01 PM
 
Location: California
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What makes it hard is they believe in dating.

Just go out for a hike, take the other to coffee afterwards. It's $2 out of pocket

Do things which are outdoorsy and free. If they seem like a good match, amp it up and invite them to a light
lunch. Or maybe do a picnic. Go swimming.

Otherwise no dating. Dating is a weird thing to do with someone you barely know
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Old 05-28-2016, 03:04 PM
 
Location: RI, MA, VT, WI, IL, CA, IN (that one sucked), KY
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What makes it hard is they believe in dating.

Just go out for a hike, take the other to coffee afterwards. It's $2 out of pocket

Do things which are outdoorsy and free. If they seem like a good match, amp it up and invite them to a light
lunch. Or maybe do a picnic. Go swimming.

Otherwise no dating. Dating is a weird thing to do with someone you barely know

Dating is exactly the thing to do with someone you barely know. That's what dating is, going out with someone and getting to know them while engaging in shared activities.
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Old 05-28-2016, 03:06 PM
 
Location: The point of no return, er, NorCal
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Again, I'm not gay (not that there's anything wrong with that before I'm called homophobic) but it should be obvious that there are a lot more fit-looking men around than fit-looking women in general.
I'm not saying that the guys are great-looking but they aren't overweight, they're pretty tall and they have a full head of hair. Unfortunately it looks like a lot of the women around here have let themselves go especially the white women.
Regarding single mothers, there is obviously no way for me to tell whether the women are single mothers even if there are kids with the couple so I have no idea whether the couple had the kids together or if they're from another relationship.


All I know is that the 5 or so women that I know who were single mothers are all seeing new men. Even one who had 3 kids with another guy.
Personally, I might make an exception for a woman who has 1 kid but I could never date a woman who has more than 1 kid that isn't my own.
My edit from my previous post:

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This is just as silly as me saying "I see a good amount of guys with nice teeth and smiles with women who don't have nice smiles." I mean, why would another person's preference or attraction to another person affect me? Why would I care? I don't. Nor do I assume that just because I like nice teeth and smiles that everyone else prefers the same. So you have a preference for HWP women. I have a preference for nice smiles. I don't expect others to share my preferences, nor do I see the point in being bitter and negative about something that doesn't concern me.
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Old 05-28-2016, 03:06 PM
 
Location: 🇬🇧 In jolly old London! 🇬🇧
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What makes it hard is they believe in dating.

Just go out for a hike, take the other to coffee afterwards. It's $2 out of pocket

Do things which are outdoorsy and free. If they seem like a good match, amp it up and invite them to a light
lunch. Or maybe do a picnic. Go swimming.

Otherwise no dating. Dating is a weird thing to do with someone you barely know
Thats the whole point and what's fun in dating........Getting to know someone?
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Old 05-28-2016, 03:09 PM
 
Location: California
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Thats the whole point and what's fun in dating........Getting to know someone?
You can get to know them platonically, per my post, before deciding to "date" them. I am also not fond of spending good money in order to "get to know someone". But that's just my opinion. We all have one
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Old 05-28-2016, 03:09 PM
 
Location: Richmond VA
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I seriously doubt things have changed very much over the years.

We are a lot smarter about knowing what our options are, (Women no longer need a husband to bring home the bacon, men no longer need a housewife to tend to his needs, and everyone is more sexually liberated and doesn't need a spouse in order to enjoy regular sex) and we are smarter about psychology and compatibility, even if we are only using pop-science. We have better tools to meet people and keep in touch with people.

There is less stigma associated with being single or childless.
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Old 05-28-2016, 03:12 PM
 
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Again, I'm not gay (not that there's anything wrong with that before I'm called homophobic) but it should be obvious that there are a lot more fit-looking men around than fit-looking women in general.
I'm not saying that the guys are great-looking but they aren't overweight, they're pretty tall and they have a full head of hair. Unfortunately it looks like a lot of the women around here have let themselves go especially the white women.
Regarding single mothers, there is obviously no way for me to tell whether the women are single mothers even if there are kids with the couple so I have no idea whether the couple had the kids together or if they're from another relationship.


All I know is that the 5 or so women that I know who were single mothers are all seeing new men. Even one who had 3 kids with another guy.
Personally, I might make an exception for a woman who has 1 kid but I could never date a woman who has more than 1 kid that isn't my own.
It's not obvious, and indeed, by the numbers it's not even true, as there are more overweight men than women in the U.S. Unless you're seeing fat guys as "just stocky" or some other automatic pass. But no, you're incorrect, unless Chicago bucks the trend and has loads of healthy weight men but a majority of overweight women.

What is all this about single mothers? Is there a disproportionate amount of single mothers in the Chicago area or something? I don't mean in your opinion, I mean in some verifiable, supportable way? Or are you referring to divorced mothers? If so, then there are just as many divorced fathers. Correct? Are they sub-par damaged goods too? Do women have to sigh and just settle for those dregs because that's all there are, all over the Chicago area?
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Old 05-28-2016, 03:13 PM
 
Location: New Yawk
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Again, I'm not gay (not that there's anything wrong with that before I'm called homophobic) but it should be obvious that there are a lot more fit-looking men around than fit-looking women in general.
I'm not saying that the guys are great-looking but they aren't overweight, they're pretty tall and they have a full head of hair. Unfortunately it looks like a lot of the women around here have let themselves go especially the white women.
Regarding single mothers, there is obviously no way for me to tell whether the women are single mothers even if there are kids with the couple so I have no idea whether the couple had the kids together or if they're from another relationship.


All I know is that the 5 or so women that I know who were single mothers are all seeing new men. Even one who had 3 kids with another guy.
Personally, I might make an exception for a woman who has 1 kid but I could never date a woman who has more than 1 kid that isn't my own.
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Originally Posted by sjm1976 View Post
I live just outside of Chicago, Illinois.


I didn't state that the women I notice the guys with all have kids but I do see a good amount of non-fat, 6'+ tall guys with women who are considerably overweight around here.


The bald guys that I see with women mostly look to be in their 50's and 60's.
Are you worried about there not being enough overweight, single moms left for you to choose from? Seriously, people are attracted to whom they're attracted to; doesn't really matter if you think they are "settling".

(FWIW, some women actually like bald)
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