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Old 06-22-2016, 10:42 AM
 
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Because it's presumptive and selective. That's what makes it insulting.

I'd rather everyone speak to each other like human beings instead of every conversation becoming a chess game of possible interest/rejection.

Again, it's the WAY it happens and why it happens that bothers me. I've explained it so many times.
You've explained that you believe it happens because you are ugly, right?

That's the assumption that most of us are having trouble understanding.
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Old 06-22-2016, 10:53 AM
 
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You've explained that you believe it happens because you are ugly, right?

That's the assumption that most of us are having trouble understanding.


This! Geez.

OP, unless you're a mindreader, you can't know.

A few suggestions were made anyway, giving the benefit of a doubt that perhaps these women's motives are exactly what you say they are (though we don't know you OR these women), to try to help you change this circumstance since it is bothering you but you don't want to hear them. Instead you take offense and exaggerate what we're saying and talk about how our answers are all apparently baloney and some sort of City Data conspiracy to annoy you personally.

Well then, what do you want from us, really? I know you mentioned you'd like to know if it happens to other guys. When you didn't get many bites in that direction you made the claim that you have a friend it happens to. Okay, so you solved that "support" issue yourself. What else? You don't seem to be asking for help but rather, asking for confirmation that 1. women are entirely shallow, in every circumstance (and are liars), 2. only handsome men can get women, 3. the women are definitely bringing up boyfriends in order to keep you from asking them out (??) and 4. this happens to every non-handsome guy, all the time. I don't know that we can necessarily do all that for you. So I am at a loss...I'm sorry. I hope whatever the issue is here, you come to terms with it.
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Old 06-22-2016, 10:54 AM
 
Location: Los Angeles, CA
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You've explained that you believe it happens because you are ugly, right?

That's the assumption that most of us are having trouble understanding.
"Ugly" is subjective.

I have many male friends who are "Hollywood pretty" (I live in Los Angeles and work in the entertainment industry) and even before I worked in the industry, I've seen the difference in how they are treated vs me and my not-as-hot-guy friends.

Again - I'll say it again and again and again - with the same group of women, my actor friends don't have boyfriend-mentions slipped into random, innocent conversations like it happens with me.

What is so hard to understand about what I'm saying?
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Old 06-22-2016, 10:59 AM
 
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"Ugly" is subjective.

I have many male friends who are "Hollywood pretty" (I live in Los Angeles and work in the entertainment industry) and even before I worked in the industry, I've seen the difference in how they are treated vs me and my not-as-hot-guy friends.

Again - I'll say it again and again and again - with the same group of women, my actor friends don't have boyfriend-mentions slipped into random, innocent conversations like it happens with me.

What is so hard to understand about what I'm saying?
No kidding...it's the same with beautiful women. Yes, the men drool all over them. So what? Most women manage to find a mate anyway. So do most men...who, mostly, are average in looks, career and so on.

Are gorgeous people treated differently? Duh, of course. Most of us women have watched the "gorgeous girls" get freebies left, right and center in all areas of life. So? We still have our own lives, we still accomplish our own aims. Nothing will ever stop people from fawning over beautiful people. Yet, non-Hollywood gorgeous people manage to have lives, fun and mates anyway.

You can cry all day and night about how unfair it is that pretty people are treated differently, but that won't change a thing.

Now if you're literally talking about actors, Hollywood-handsome actors, well duh.

But them being Hollywood-handsome still doesn't explain this happening TO YOU even when they're not around..right?

I seriously think you never wanted any answers or help here. You just wanted to cry, and have other people say "I know...poor you. And...those witches."

We can't because you're not talking sense.
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Old 06-22-2016, 11:09 AM
 
Location: Scottsdale, AZ
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"Ugly" is subjective.

I have many male friends who are "Hollywood pretty" (I live in Los Angeles and work in the entertainment industry) and even before I worked in the industry, I've seen the difference in how they are treated vs me and my not-as-hot-guy friends.

Again - I'll say it again and again and again - with the same group of women, my actor friends don't have boyfriend-mentions slipped into random, innocent conversations like it happens with me.

What is so hard to understand about what I'm saying?
This thread has got me thinking back through all my flirtatious encounters (that's a lot of encounters ) and I do recall a couple women mentioning their SO's. I don't think there's a man alive (good looking or ugly) that this hasn't happen to them during a flirtatious encounter.

Or do you expect every women to be single and attracted to you?

Your problem is that youre too sensitive and insecure. And you're blaming women for it.
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Old 06-22-2016, 11:10 AM
 
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Originally Posted by EveryDayGuy View Post
"Ugly" is subjective.

I have many male friends who are "Hollywood pretty" (I live in Los Angeles and work in the entertainment industry) and even before I worked in the industry, I've seen the difference in how they are treated vs me and my not-as-hot-guy friends.

Again - I'll say it again and again and again - with the same group of women, my actor friends don't have boyfriend-mentions slipped into random, innocent conversations like it happens with me.

What is so hard to understand about what I'm saying?
What makes you think we don't understand what you are saying?

Oh. Now I see.

You think "understand" means "agree."

Who taught you that garbage?
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Old 06-22-2016, 11:11 AM
 
Location: Brentwood, Tennessee
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Your problem is that youre too sensitive and insecure. And you're blaming women for it.
Yep.

Everyone "gets" your point, OP. We know what you're TRYING to say.

You just don't like the answer.
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Old 06-22-2016, 11:13 AM
 
Location: Middle of the valley
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If a guy starts talking to me out of the blue, then yep, I bring up my husband.

Why? Because most guys are usually only starting conversations to ask you out (not all, and less the older I get!!), so it gives them the information they need to move on, or stay and chat.

It's a just in case move that benefits both parties.

So if you are so bothered, start chatting with guys instead of women.
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Old 06-22-2016, 11:13 AM
 
Location: Jupiter
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Well women have to let men down easily because some men can snap on them if they're mean about it. There have even been women who were shot for rejecting a man. I honestly can't blame a woman for being cautious since a lot of men can't handle rejection all that well.
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Old 06-22-2016, 12:05 PM
 
Location: 🇬🇧 In jolly old London! 🇬🇧
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Well women have to let men down easily because some men can snap on them if they're mean about it. There have even been women who were shot for rejecting a man. I honestly can't blame a woman for being cautious since a lot of men can't handle rejection all that well.
Hello 49er

I completely understand what you're saying mate but in reality there's no excuse for " snapping " at a woman especially when your most probably the cause of her outburst

Most of the time men choose the wrong time and place to approach and with a complete disregard for her current mood and whether or not it's appropriate .....

From my experience the only time most women will be rude and mean in turning down a bloke is when they have been rude in asking or picking an inappropriate moment.

That's the best thing that an experienced bloke learns is timing, I'm sure you've heard the saying " fools rush in "? ..... That's very relevant to this
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