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Old 05-19-2009, 04:25 AM
 
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No, but disappointment that my toaster can't perform 2001 functions doesn't affect my relationships. Science fiction is about alternate futures and what they may be like. A good science fiction novel makes you think. Reading science fiction led to my becomming an engineer.
Congratulations.
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Old 05-19-2009, 04:37 AM
 
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I don't get romance novels. Why read about someone elses romances. Just have your own. I figure people who read them are lacking something in their life and they fill the void by living vicariously through other people's relationships (even if they are made up). I read science fiction because it makes me think. It stretches the boundaries of what could be. And some of it has actually come true.

I'm still looking for my upper half of the room cleaning robot though.

Well like I said previously, I read them when there is no man in my life. And many woman read them who are in relationships with men who are stingy with romance.

As far as your robot is concerened, i'm sure that if you really want it, you'll get it. I read sci-fi too, just haven't in a looooooong time.
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Old 05-19-2009, 06:54 AM
 
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I would rather watch porn than read a romance novel. But Ive never been able to watch in more that 10 minutes and Ive never been able to finish a romance novel.
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Old 05-19-2009, 07:02 AM
 
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I am a woman and I haven't read a romance novel since I was a teen. Even then I skimmed to get to the juicy part, I never read the whole book.

Funny, stashed not to far back from the dirty books where the dirty movies. When I discovered that I had no use for any book. So I guess you can blame my parents lol! I like porn and don't mind if my SO does also.
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Old 05-19-2009, 07:04 AM
 
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OK so who says that women don't like porn because we do. and people on this forum seem very uptight about everything. Does it matter if you like porn or romance novels, no because just because someone is watching porn doesn't mean they aren't romantic, infact sometimes it makes them more chivalrous.and romance novels are so trite, they give you good mental imagery, but in the end they do the same thing which is play out a fantasy.
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Old 05-19-2009, 07:56 AM
 
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Well my wife reads romance novels all the time.And I think that some times she thinks I should be the same as the Guys in the Books.

Just the same as Soap Operas.my wife likes them too.Bad thing is some women like our Daughter have a problem seperating real from fantasy.My Daughter is over 30 and still feels people should live just as the Soap Operas

As far as Porn yes there is some very pretty girls.but I realize there is more to a marriage than sex.

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Old 05-19-2009, 10:35 AM
 
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Apparently women think of porn as the same level as cheating and are willing to get a divorce. Men aren't that stupid to take things so far if they catch a chick reading a romance novel.
My not soon enough to be X liked porn on the internet. Mostly women masturbating and woman/woman sex and he had a subscription to barley legal mag. All of which for some reason he tried to hide from me. So why would he be so stupid to get upset and write pervert on the broke back mountain dvd I rented?
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Old 05-19-2009, 11:04 AM
 
Location: southern california
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cutting him off and then watching his pathetic attempts to deal with his unmet needs puts the gal in the drivers seat, 24/7 a nice place to be. take back your power guys, see the lawyer b4 the marriage not after.
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Old 05-19-2009, 11:09 AM
 
Location: Houston, Texas
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Problem is real people seldom can live up to fantasy. Romance in the real world and romance in those novels is two different things.

If I read romance novels, would my husband sending me a poem via emal at work or making my favorite dinner measure up? Probably not. The problem with voyeuristic activities is they set an unrealistic bar. They set you up to be unhappy with what life gives you. Better to make your own romance and your own live porn and leave reading/watching what others do out.

From what I can see, it's the novels that make her unhappy with her life just like porn makes many men unhappy with their marriages. Their real life partners can't measure up to fantasy hype.
It's kind of a chicken and egg scenario. Does the fantasy create unrealistic expectations or does reality create the need for fantasy? It's probably somewhere in between.

Porn does not MAKE men unhappy with their marriage. It can be a symptom of an unhappy marriage but it does not create the unhappy marriage in and of itself. Of course if the wife finds out it would probably make her unhappy, but it would probably make her take stock in herself, and her relationship with her husband. She would probably talk to him about it. A husband will probably not talk to his wife about her romance novels.

You don't have to be married to look at porn, nor to read romance novels. Chances are the men were looking at porn before they were married and the women were reading romance novels before they were married. And chances are that the fiance, before he turned into a husband, did fulfill some of the fantasy that she had been reading. And chances are that the new bride did fulfill some of the new husband's porn fantasies when they were newlyweds.
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Care to explain why most of the women I know don't read romance novels?
Statistical anomoly. Most of the women I know do read romance novels.
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The logic she's a woman and women like romance is nonsense.
It's well established that women DO like romance. Your argument has no ground to stand on.
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It's more she'd rather live in a fantasy world than the real world, like a man viewing porn, and it's creating a problem, like men viewing porn, in that the real world is dull compared to the exciting fantasy world. So no one is happy because of the situation.
It might be true for some women (and men), but it is probably not true for all women (and men). How do you know? Life is not black and white. It's full of color. I don't mind discussing generalities but I'd venture a guess that you haven't done any studies on the matter and are only reacting based on your own personal conjecture.
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What I'm not moved by is "romance". Relationships are more than that. IMO, romance is just courtship rituals. Love goes much deeper than that. I'd rather have love. I just don't define love in the frilly, romantic way many do. To me it's not a fire that burns hot and is exciting but warm embers that are comforting. I'd rather my partner be my best friend than have a fantasy relationship.
Not everyone is as pragmatic as you. A lot of people enjoy the meaning behind the romance. The act of kindness that that special person gives you makes you feel special to that person. It enhances the love, like wine enhances food. Romance is meant to unify the couple. It's more than a ritual.

If you don't feel the way we do about romance, then that's perfectly okay. It's not for you. But please have an open mind. Not everyone thinks of romance as ritual. To a lot of people it is a necessity because it is a reminder about how much you are loved.

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Old 05-19-2009, 11:38 AM
 
Location: Upstate NY
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I think in some cases it can be but it really depends on the people. TO me romance novels are just romance novels and porn is just porn. I don't like romance novels as they do nothing for me except make me giggle a little. I'd much rather have the porn. :P
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